St Pats in player betting allegations

[geysir]

Only when you read the details is it obvious he put only E20 on when he wasn't playing.

Does the 'no bet rule' apply to players who are rested?

[brianw82]

Why do you think the Gardaí are involved!

Why ARE the Gardai involved? Was a bookie robbed or something? Was whatever was done illegal under Irish or international law?

[mrmurphster]

That time Drogheda played Shamrock Rovers - Drogheda played their U18's and some of the senior players had thousands on Rovers

Correct, I remember that well. And I know for a fact that players at other clubs in the league took advantage of the situation too.

[Krstic]

Where has any newspaper, or anyone else, reported that bookmakers were alarmed. Paddy Power and William hill have come out and said there were nothing of note about the game to them.

Well Where & Why did a this story break?
What was so alarming about Dempsey losing a €20 double?
How did the gambling come to light, before Dempsey owned up?

[Réiteoir]

Was talking about this to the gaffer of my local last night (I had a copy of the Indo which I picked up on the way home from the Norwegian Cup Final in Oslo)

He was of the same opinion as Dodge and myself - a lifetime ban for a €20 bet concerning a game you're not DIRECTLY involved in is madness.

A half-season ban, a big fine and Dempsey should be made to do some PR stuff involving Gamblers Anonymous or it's equivalent.

[Dodge]

Just for the record. The Gardai are NOT involved in the pats thing. Sadlier contected them as he didn't know if it was illegal or not. There is nothing illegal about players making bets.

[Rovers Maniac]

I can see Kelleher taking the high road over this, and to e fair you could not blame him if you heard of this carry on.

[charliesboots]

I can see Kelleher taking the high road over this, and to e fair you could not blame him if you heard of this carry on.

What carry on? Do you write for the Herald or something?

[Krstic]

Can someone please tell me WHY a €20 Euro LOST double was deemed news worthy and how did a journalist get wind of it?

[Dodge]

I can see Kelleher taking the high road over this, and to e fair you could not blame him if you heard of this carry on.

What do you know about Kelleher? (Serious question...)

[Rovers Maniac]

Can someone please tell me WHY a €20 Euro LOST double was deemed news worthy and how did a journalist get wind of it?

It was not, the story is not about this

[Rovers Maniac]

What do you know about Kelleher? (Serious question...)

Lots

[sligored]

They would not be having this investigation over 1 €20 bet. There is a lot more to come from this story.
Gary Dempsey is only the tip of the iceberg.

[Dodge]

They would not be having this investigation over 1 €20 bet. There is a lot more to come from this story.
Gary Dempsey is only the tip of the iceberg.

They're having the investigation over the rumours. Rumours that even Quinn said were unsubstantiated

[OneRedArmy]

Just for the record. The Gardai are NOT involved in the pats thing. Sadlier contected them as he didn't know if it was illegal or not. There is nothing illegal about players making bets.

As long as they don't seek to influence to outcome of the game.

Then its fraud and is illegal.

Not saying thats the case but the gardai may need to statisfy themselves that its not.

I'm genuinely surprised at the attitude of a lot of people on here. If this happened at my club I'd want whoever it was run out of there asap.

The fact Dempsey didn't seem to think it was wrong makes me wonder what else is going on within Pats and in other clubs in the League.

One of the reasons there has to be a strong deterrent against this kind of stuff is that its very hard to detect and prove (very easy to be suspicious), so honesty and transparency is crucial.

Some people view all this as being a bit of a dramaqueen, personally it calls into question the whole ethics and raison d'etre of sport.

[Saint_Charlie]

One of the reasons there has to be a strong deterrent against this kind of stuff is that its very hard to detect and prove (very easy to be suspicious), so honesty and transparency is crucial.

It was Dempseys honesty that got him into trouble.

Do you think they would have found out about his bet if he hadn't of owned up?

[Dodge]

As long as they don't seek to influence to outcome of the game.

Then its fraud and is illegal.

St pats have already spoken to the garda and they have confirmed there is nothign illegal.

so honesty and transparency is crucial

Dempsey has been nothing but open and honest

[Krstic]

It was Dempseys honesty that got him into trouble.

Do you think they would have found out about his bet if he hadn't of owned up?

Right, then back to my previously ignored post, how did the papers get wind of it before Dempsey admitted to his €20 flutter?

Something got the papers talking and surely it wasn't a €20 beaten docket.

[Dodge]

Right, then back to my previously ignored post, how did the papers get wind of it before Dempsey admitted to his €20 flutter?

Something got the papers talking and surely it wasn't a €20 beaten docket.

How many times? Even the guy who wrote the article said on radion on Friday that the rumours are unsubstantiated? There was talk on here after the games that the gmaes were fixed and its just snowballed. The LOI is small. Some players backed Galway and told their mates to. Their mates told their mates etc and before you know it the papers are screaming FIX

Its complete and utter ********

[Krstic]

How many times? Even the guy who wrote the article said on radion on Friday that the rumours are unsubstantiated? There was talk on here after the games that the gmaes were fixed and its just snowballed. The LOI is small. Some players backed Galway and told their mates to. Their mates told their mates etc and before you know it the papers are screaming FIX

Its complete and utter ********

So it's Foot.ie's fault?

Yet you say, "some players backed Galway and told their mates to"

I thought it was just Dempsey's Beaten double?

If you honestly believe what you're typing, then you are very naive Dodge.