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    From a Rovers perspective can I just say.....
    After 20 years of struggling we have finally gotten our act together just in time to take part in a league that will be no more within 18 months...
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    See they are appealing this not on what grounds
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    Quote Originally Posted by gufct View Post
    See they are appealing this not on what grounds
    Cause they are a "unique case" god bless them!!!!!
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    What a waste of time this appeal will be, and the couple of thousand that it costs to appeal!. How are they a "unique case"?, they got into financial trouble through their own decisions, went into examinership and now are paying the penalty, just like Cork had to. I wouldn't be happy if I were a Drogs fan that at a time when you can't pay players their full wage and are in examinership you're frivolously wasting a couple of thousand. I think it costs about €2.5k to appeal?.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian
    What a waste of time this appeal will be, and the couple of thousand that it costs to appeal!. How are they a "unique case"?, they got into financial trouble through their own decisions, went into examinership and now are paying the penalty, just like Cork had to. I wouldn't be happy if I were a Drogs fan that at a time when you can't pay players their full wage and are in examinership you're frivolously wasting a couple of thousand. I think it costs about €2.5k to appeal?.
    But it's not their fault - it's the NRA's!

    Drogheda fans seem to think anything Hoey does is untouchable, so probably won't mind. Meanwhile, the 100 days ticks on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyG View Post
    Cause they are a "unique case" god bless them!!!!!
    Drogs. is there any chance that the 10 point deduction will be increased or may even be implemented from the start of next season. Appealing this only causes more uncertainty and reduces the leagues credibility further

    They should take their punishment for blatant bullying of what they considered were lesser teams.

    And joe soap as a follower of limerick football you would not have a clue about the rewards of being a family club with a long and proud history. We did not take examinership or fudge any of our debts

    Sligo rovers have every right to celebrate the sanctions imposed on drogheda united after them tapping up and offering unrealistic terms to players who were contracted to our club.

    we are not out of financial difficulties yet but i think you will find that we will be a force to be reckoned with next year.

    You heard it here first.

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    Surely if they lose the appeal they will have to be hit with further sanctions .Unique case my hole.
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    What people need to be aware of is that they are appealing this to the FAI.

    Don't be surprised if the bozo's not only grant them their appeal, but give them 10 points with it, and a lump sum thrown in for goodwill.

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    I think Drogheda fans need to start asking very serious questions of the leadership of their club. The absolute and sole focus surely should be to survive examinership, yet the efforts still seem to be directed at political pressure to get the permission for the 5000 houses needed to finance the stadium. And given the NRA's continued opposition that looks dead in the water. It's very hard to know what to make of what's going on there but I would serious worry for Drogheda's future.
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    They're actually appealing to the "Independent" Club Licencing Appeals Committee but I see your point!. I don't think they'd be hit with any further sanctions other than losing the couple of grand it costs to appeal. I'll be astonished if they win this appeal.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    I think Drogheda fans need to start asking very serious questions of the leadership of their club. The absolute and sole focus surely should be to survive examinership, yet the efforts still seem to be directed at political pressure to get the permission for the 5000 houses needed to finance the stadium. And given the NRA's continued opposition that looks dead in the water. It's very hard to know what to make of what's going on there but I would serious worry for Drogheda's future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gufcfan View Post
    I'm sure they would never speculate about such but, do you think that comment is a nod towards more deductions very, very soon, not necessarily Drogs now either.
    I thought that myself when reading it.
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    So then could Sligo, Galway, Cobh, Harps, Bray get points deductions because they weren't in sound financial standing earlier in the year, no matter what their financial status is this year.
    Review all accounts @ season end and then come to findings/sanctions.
    Jaysus UCD could make europe with all these deductions
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    Quote Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite View Post
    So then could Sligo, Galway, Cobh, Harps, Bray get points deductions because they weren't in sound financial standing earlier in the year, no matter what their financial status is this year.
    Review all accounts @ season end and then come to findings/sanctions.
    Jaysus UCD could make europe with all these deductions
    In most of the above cases the 65% was based on income projections agreed in advance with the FAI , due to a variety of reasons including the credit crunch , dodgy refs in cup games , etc ,the income didn't come in so adjustments had to be made to the cost bases. I think the rules are more strict next year as the 65% is going to be based on this years actual income.

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    Fully audited accounts have to be submitted to licensing on the 31st January and that is where punishments will be handed out again if lets say their monthly management accounts were a small bit creative and that applies to all teams not just ones that are suffering difficulties at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post
    Fully audited accounts have to be submitted to licensing on the 31st January and that is where punishments will be handed out again if lets say their monthly management accounts were a small bit creative and that applies to all teams not just ones that are suffering difficulties at the moment.
    You see that gets me. Weren't they being reviewed each month? Was there correspondence with clubs or where procedures put in place? Seems to little to late. The 31st jan seems to far away to be effective.

    I don't think I'd accept an Irish football clubs accounts as a true and fair reflection of the status of that particular club. If I where the auditor I'd hound the bank statements to get an idea of how cash flow is rather than the P&L and B/S.
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    Clubs were required to send in thier monthly management accounts and these were looked at by Padraig Smith in the FAI. These would have to be taken in good faith but now if the audited accounts don't match i can see big penalties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post
    Clubs were required to send in thier monthly management accounts and these were looked at by Padraig Smith in the FAI. These would have to be taken in good faith but now if the audited accounts don't match i can see big penalties
    Financial or points on the board?
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    I would say refusal of licenses

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    Are they blind? It is only proper order they got 10pts deduction. They are just fooling themselves with this appeal.

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