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**Lim till i die** · 27/10/2008, 6:42 PM

Heard somewhere that only two First Division clubs have paid their players every week this season aswell.........

**6yardpunisha** · 27/10/2008, 6:52 PM

Originally Posted by micls

Spot on. id imagine a lot fo clubs will be taking big cuts this year.

Our rumoured wages(including backroom staff) was over 50k a week this year. Next year it is to be cut to between 15 and 20k.

There'l be a lot of players free and only one club in a position to pay big money. Wages will certainly be coming down

on tonights echo that coughlan brought team away for a few days and told them the budget is 15k per week for next season

**passerrby** · 27/10/2008, 7:25 PM

Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Heard somewhere that only two First Division clubs have paid their players every week this season aswell.........

I wonder who the other club is

**Sam_Heggy** · 27/10/2008, 7:50 PM

So when is Pete Mahon doing his next interview? He will surely be calling for points deductions here too then will he?

Sad news, but maybe with so many teams in bother it could be a major wake up call to all clubs to curb the spending.

**Lim till i die** · 27/10/2008, 8:25 PM

Originally Posted by passerrby

I wonder who the other club is

One begins in L and ends in 7.

The other is Dundalk.

Was surprised myself but that's what the officianado told me.

**HarpoJoyce** · 27/10/2008, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

........
Sad news, but maybe with so many teams in bother it could be a major wake up call to all clubs to curb the spending.

It appears the noises from many clubs is to change their recent habits.

But if many clubs are in a similar situation, does that not let them off the hook a little bit?
'Everybody is spending too much'
'We're all in the same boat'
I think the Natural competitiveness of these great clubmen will return very quickly. Especially those that use the long arm of the law to renege on payment of their debts.

**passerrby** · 27/10/2008, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

It appears the noises from many clubs is to change their recent habits.

But if many clubs are in a similar situation, does that not let them off the hook a little bit?
'Everybody is spending too much'
'We're all in the same boat'
I think the Natural competitiveness of these great clubmen will return very quickly. Especially those that use the long arm of the law to renege on payment of their debts.

agree harpo i dont believe most clus have learned anything from this seasons fcukups they,ll do it all over again given the chance

**higgins** · 27/10/2008, 11:39 PM

If someone told you only Limerick 37 and dundalk have paid their players on time this year then they are simply telling lies.

Shelbourne have no no wage issues this season.

**L37Ultra** · 27/10/2008, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by higgins

If someone told you only Limerick 37 and dundalk have paid their players on time this year then they are simply telling lies.

Shelbourne have no no wage issues this season.

Limerick have paid all their players on time this year, I know that for a fact. I can't comment on Dundalk though.

**superfrank** · 28/10/2008, 1:52 PM

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

So when is Pete Mahon doing his next interview? He will surely be calling for points deductions here too then will he?

That'd be a bit much. In fairness, from what I've heard, it seems that the board are just cutting costs before they get into serious trouble.

AFAIK, we don't have a hefty, outstanding tax bill or need a large sum of money before a certain date (like Sligo), we don't have a large debt or have to go into examinership (like Cork or Drogs), we haven't had to defer wages. AFAIK, all the club are doing is making a pre-emptive move before things get worse.

There's only three weeks left in the season. We do have two home games in that time against Drogs and Cobh but that won't really add much. Cobh won't get the crowds in and I don't think Drogs will be as big a draw as there were before.

**pineapple stu** · 28/10/2008, 1:56 PM

Originally Posted by superfrank

we haven't had to defer wages.

What's a 40% wage cut if it's not a wage deferral? Unless you're simply not paying them that ever, which is worse.

Surprised at Bray, to be honest. Thought the large losses you seem to always rack up were at least being happily enough covered by the directors, as there was rarely a peep out of the Carlisle.

Just us and Rovers left standing. Going to be a very poor Premier Division next year, I'd say. The bubble has well and truly burst.

**superfrank** · 28/10/2008, 2:06 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

What's a 40% wage cut if it's not a wage deferral? Unless you're simply not paying them that ever, which is worse.

It's a wage cut. My guess is they are cutting the wages before they get into a position where they'll have to start deferring wages.

I don't know all the ins and outs so I can't say for sure what the club are doing exactly.

**pineapple stu** · 28/10/2008, 2:15 PM

I don't think you can cut wages and then say you haven't deferred wages. I agree they're different words, but I think the seriousness of both is so linked, and the similarities are so marked that it's pointless differentiating between them.

**micls** · 28/10/2008, 2:19 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I don't think you can cut wages and then say you haven't deferred wages. I agree they're different words, but I think the seriousness of both is so linked, and the similarities are so marked that it's pointless differentiating between them.

The difference being though that deferred wages must be paid to get a license the next season-like us.

However a wage cut it just a restructuring of a contract with a player-similar to giving them a better contract mid-contract.

What it does do is make all the Bray players technically free agents, but given that the players have agreed to it, fair play to them. They certainly didnt have to

**Student Mullet** · 28/10/2008, 2:22 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I don't think you can cut wages and then say you haven't deferred wages. I agree they're different words, but I think the seriousness of both is so linked, and the similarities are so marked that it's pointless differentiating between them.

Presumably a cut is worse since the players will never get the money.

**micls** · 28/10/2008, 2:23 PM

Originally Posted by Student Mullet

Presumably a cut is worse since the players will never get the money.

Worse for the players but better for the club when it comes to licensing.

**jinxy lilywhite** · 28/10/2008, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by L37Ultra

Limerick have paid all their players on time this year, I know that for a fact. I can't comment on Dundalk though.

As far as I am aware our players where paid on time this season and have been ever since Gerry Matthews took over the club.
An incident did occur where players and the board disagreed about their first payment date but this was a storm in a teacup and would of stayed that way only for those pesky PFAI and Stephen "Unfinished Business" McGuinness.