BOHEMIAN1890 is laughable, and even though this 'giving the LOI' a bad name is nonsense he is trying his best to do it.
Footballing culture? What growing up and playing with people that aren't actually French. What the f*ck is French footballing culture when nearly every one of their best players emigrates. Great answer.
And what exactly is so different from the Irish footballing 'culture' compared with any the football played in Britain. You'd make a more sensible argument if you were a GAA bigot banging on about foreign games. But then you are an expert spouting so much sh*t you must know when other people do the same.
Firstly, In Ireland you have your own language, which you seem reluctant or unable to use in normal discourse.
Secondly, I'd say you'd end up supporting England before me. Most people on this forum would, and don't think a half-wit like you would be any different.
Thirdly, when your b*llocks have finally dropped and you move into the more advanced school studies you might actually discover a couple of the heads of states of post independent Ireland who spoke with English accents. You might also discover a thing called emigration, which when you grown up, if the doomsayers are to be believed, you might be a participant in it. Still this won't come as big as a shock to you as when you discover babies come from ladies front bums, though?
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
BOHEMIAN1890 is laughable, and even though this 'giving the LOI' a bad name is nonsense he is trying his best to do it.
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
yeah well thats good lopez....
there is some absolute goons on this site.
i have no problem with english born players playing for the national side at all. I believe in tradition and heritage and i believe in the right of 2nd and 3rd gen irish men and irish women to feel an affinity to Ireland.
However, I do think that BohSoGood made a very good and subtle point which i think a lot of you have missed/misinterpreted.
Why support a (lets face it) pretty sh1te national side who will never win a major championship? Using the main argument made by many on this site against supporting an irish club side (i.e. theyre all sh1te) why settle for second or third best when it comes to a national side? Why not pick the one that wins the trophies or that plays nice ball or employs the fanciest system?
Last edited by SkStu; 28/10/2008 at 11:27 PM.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
Who on this site doesn't support a LOI club because they are sh1te?
No one misundertood/missed/misinterpreted what he was trying to say, even if you would like to think we are all oblivious to it because we dont necessarily have an EL team.
You would be hard pressed to find ppl on this site, who don't support LOI teams because they are sh1te, in the public you are probably right but not on this site. I would say the majority of those who don't support EL teams that post on this site, is because they have no affiliation to any club and never grew up supporting an EL side(whether they are born in Ireland or wherever else or are expats), you cant just switch a lightbulb and decide "today I am a Pats fan, and for the rest of my life"
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
I don't feel that either of them should, O'Brien cos he's not good enough and Ireland cos he's a tosser. Terrible come back by the way, anybody would think that being told who and who not to support by some pretentious LOI 'fan' was the same thing as questioning whether or not a guy should play for his country.
Who's arguing that Gibson and co are better players?? Look I'm as impressed with Ireland's eye for goal as anybody but to suggest his workrate is outstanding is crazy talk. And I would have thought that if it was just highlights of goals and killer passes that I've seen then I would think he's top class....fair enough I don't see every City match as they are generally not on Sky or Setanta but I did see enough of them over the past 2 seasons to give an opinion on him, as being Irish he would be one of the players I would be most interested in. If you can't make a judgement for yourself on a player and need Mr Barclay to tell u if a player's good or not then fair enough but maybe it's him that's just watchin the highlights!!
Jaysus!!
Probably the bones of a decent debate lost in hail of insults and false indignation.
Firstly a different slant on the players retiring early. Leaving aside the individual cases. Does anyone here feel the fans share some of the blame for creating a situation were players hate playing for their country? Negative atmosphere at games? E.g 7 out of 9 points for Trapp and he is shipping loads of criticism? The criticism directed at Gibson/Whelan? Letting Delaney away with some of the cr*p he has pulled. Cause I do.
Secondly – Great post Sheridan.
Thirdly is anyone going to tell me(in a reasonable manner) the difference between supporting Man u etc over Irish clubs and supporting Italy over Ireland national team?
I wouldn’t consider myself to be anyway knowledgable about the EL but I like football so if I wanna go see a decent game I can just go down to inchicore for 15 euro. If people on here claim to love football so much why don’t they do the same for their local team? Whether that be nottingham forrest or Finn Harps?
Bill, you still don't understand though, i made the point above. Name the people on here that have contributed that can do that and don't?!
You can just "go down to inchicore", what say 15 mins away? Thats not the case for a lot of people outside Dublin/ppl born outside of Ireland/expats etc.
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
Just to add, there is no difference supporting Italy over Ireland, but doing it out of spite is.
Well in fairness I did say your local team. And come on, a lot of people on this site are Dublin based or Cork based. Both have clubs to choose from.
And you ask me to help you??!! Man is evil!!!! Capable of nothing but destruction!
dont pull that one POS - in my short time on this site i have seen it myself from many posters that the EL is sh1te, long ball, hoof etc etc. Do not deny that.
You say: "you cant just switch a lightbulb and decide "today I am a Pats fan, and for the rest of my life" - im sorry but why is that not possible yet it is possible to do it for a club that is based miles away, in a different country, with which you have no real affinity for the locality or the people? Just wondering where that difference lies Paul?
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
I went back to supporting Bohs after a long abscence of living in Clare etc. Now it has been a slow process of really getting to the stage where I am nervous and it effects my mood etc but it is there now and the journey has been enjoyable too and as Billsthoughts said going to live football for 15 euro a month is great value. In many ways it was going to away games with Ireland that made me want to get that live football experience on a more regular basis that got me going to the LOI after been brought there as a little kid.
In Trap we trust
You can follow a team in a foreign country if it has a number of large Irish internationals playing for them. What I don't understand - and this sounds like I'm the Support Police - is the continuation of this 'love' when there are no longer any Irish players and the manager actually hates the Irish. I took a great interest in Arsenal in the late seventies, solely for the numbers of Irish - North and South - at the club. Once they left, I couldn't really be bothered any more, especially as following Ireland was such a far greater footballing experience as a fan - cr*p team at the time but I didn't realise I'd witness them in a World Cup quarter final.
I met Eddie McGoldrick once and he told me George Graham hated the Irish. He knew him better than me, but it sort of vindicated me never following them (and let's face it I've had ample chance to rejoin the bandwagon).
As for the LOI, I've watched Irish teams in Wales (Cork City), Belgium (Sligo) and the Olympic team in Dunkirk against France. That last game was perhaps the best performance of an Irish national team since the 2-2 draw away to Holland in 1981. What I've seen of it is far from sh*t.
This is the cooooooooooooolest footy forum I've ever seen!
absolutely Lopez, you can follow any team you like. I follow the fortunes of overseas Irish players too as i love the national team and want to see them do the best that we can expect.
My issue was with POS's statement. Thats absolute rubbish. Why can you (not you specifically) pick a foreign team to support for the rest of your life, as is the case of so so many Irish men, but to pick an Irish team is something where "you cant just switch a lightbulb and decide "today I am a Pats fan, and for the rest of my life". To me it is far easier to do that with an Irish team than with a foreign team with no affinity to the community/county/country of your birth? Pauls statement puzzles me beyond belief.
I like high energy football. A little bit rock and roll. Many finishes instead of waiting for the perfect one.
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