"the brand which is Limerick FC"

**harpin** · 22/10/2008, 11:35 AM

Taken from the statement on the club site re Trappatoni night.

Realistically this has to be created to attract bigger crowds, more money, new players etc, sounds awful though.........are we the new Munster!!!

**GenerationXI** · 22/10/2008, 11:44 AM

Wait, what? Is this gonna turn into one of those threads where we talk about the vicious circle? Y'know: More fans = More Money = Better Football and Stadium, which are needed to attract? = More fans = More Money = Better Football + Stadium which are needed to attract? = . . .

**Monkfish** · 22/10/2008, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by harpin

are we the new Munster!!!

The day we all sit down at a game and clap along to another teams song is the day I die.

**GenerationXI** · 22/10/2008, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by Monkfish

The day we all sit down at a game ... is the day I die.

I know I couldn't get used to proper seating either. . . it just feels wrong.

**Monkfish** · 22/10/2008, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by GenerationXI

I know I couldn't get used to proper seating either. . . it just feels wrong.

Of course! why would you want to sit in an ugly mecano set (filty from the outside btw) when you can stand with a bag of cans at your feet!

**GenerationXI** · 22/10/2008, 12:44 PM

Is that a record? Gone off topic in 5 posts.

Sorry, harpin, what was it you wanted to know? Do all the band wagon jumpers who follow Munster represent a target for us? Well that's how we lured Jack McCarthy in but it's just not true. These people demand a certain standard of football and a brand and all the clubs in this country are a long way away from that. Look, they go to their five United Games a year - maybe less now, thanks to the BIG C - (credit crunch) - and watch the Heinken Cup from the semi-final stages onward. They're happy with that...that and sex once a month. Just like I'm happy being cynical and basing all of my arguments on two-dimensional stereotypes.

Next Question.

**harpin** · 22/10/2008, 1:08 PM

No more questions just think the use of the word "brand" is a bad way in which to describe the club

I agree with Monkfishs' sentiments about Munster, all these alickadoos with their feigned interest, if they self implode(which they probably won't)then you'll be lucky to fill quarter of that place in Mayorstone . There was a big crowd for Shannon and Garryowen there last week and most of them were there just to see how nice the toilets were

**joeSoap** · 22/10/2008, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by harpin

I agree with Monkfishs' sentiments about Munster, all these alickadoos with their feigned interest, if they self implode(which they probably won't)then you'll be lucky to fill quarter of that place in Mayorstone . There was a big crowd for Shannon and Garryowen there last week and most of them were there just to see how nice the toilets were

I've been going to rugby matches in Thomond Park and all over Europe for as long as I can remember. I've also been going to League of Ireland football for over 30 years. Does that make me an 'alickadoo'? I would hardly describe my interest as being feigned. Comments about Munster are not really fair. Its human nature to support something that little bit more when its successful. If Limerick FC get promoted next season their attendances will probably quadruple because they will be playing better teams that the public want to see. Will you criticise and judge these people when they jump on the Limerick FC bandwagon? I doubt it. And if the club has any sense it will adapt similar marketing policies as addressed by the egg chasers.

**Monkfish** · 22/10/2008, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by harpin

just think the use of the word "brand" is a bad way in which to describe the club

Been called worse in fairness.

**sadloserkid** · 22/10/2008, 2:53 PM

Originally Posted by Monkfish

Been called worse in fairness.

And Limerick Brand FC is one of the few names left unused by us too.

**Jofspring** · 22/10/2008, 3:03 PM

Originally Posted by joeSoap

I've been going to rugby matches in Thomond Park and all over Europe for as long as I can remember. I've also been going to League of Ireland football for over 30 years. Does that make me an 'alickadoo'? I would hardly describe my interest as being feigned. Comments about Munster are not really fair. Its human nature to support something that little bit more when its successful. If Limerick FC get promoted next season their attendances will probably quadruple because they will be playing better teams that the public want to see. Will you criticise and judge these people when they jump on the Limerick FC bandwagon? I doubt it. And if the club has any sense it will adapt similar marketing policies as addressed by the egg chasers.

Agree with you totally. I'd be similar in supporting, Limerick, Munster and Shannon at every possible chance so i don't agree with calling all Munster fans bandwagoners or whatever as i certainly am not one.

**sadloserkid** · 22/10/2008, 3:15 PM

The ovewhelming majority of Munster fans are the worst type of sports fan, people who never darkened the door of an AIL club or who, even worse in my opinion, have totally abandoned the AIL because there's a newer, bigger, brighter, cooler show in town.

I doubt that anybody here has any negativity to bestow upon genuine rugby fans. It's the other 90% or so that are beneath contempt.

And I probably will look think a little less of those who hop onboard our own wagon if and when it stops moving. I won't make a big deal about it because their money would certainly be welcomed but somebody who is only willing to support a local team when they're succesful doesn't deserve the same respect as somebody who follows them regardless of form and profile irrespective of the sporting code we're tlking about.

**jebus** · 22/10/2008, 3:22 PM

Remember when Young Munster vs Garryowen was the biggest show in town? Good times and I have a lot of respect for those that continue to support their AIL side (most Munster fans probably don't even realise that this league still exists), but I'll never have respect for Munster, any of their achievements or their non-AIL supporting fans.

Similarly back in the 90s I remember when the hurlers were playing Offaly in the Final up in Croke Park and one of the old lads who came into our bar (sadly has passed away since) and went to all Limerick games (league and cup)found it very difficult to get his hands on a ticket for the match because of all the families in their shiny new Limerick jerseys grabbing them. Luckily one of the lads in the bar was able to get a spare for him, but for a while it was looking like he'd be watching on the telly with us.

Irish people in general are shocking when it comes to jumping on and off bandwagons (Chelsea and Arsenal jerseys popping up out of nowhere back when they were winning leagues, the Ole Ole brigade that watch Ireland, the rugby crowd that followed the highs and lows of Drico's life), but Limerick people do seem to have the edge on the rest of the country in this respect

**Jofspring** · 22/10/2008, 3:39 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

The ovewhelming majority of Munster fans are the worst type of sports fan, people who never darkened the door of an AIL club or who, even worse in my opinion, have totally abandoned the AIL because there's a newer, bigger, brighter, cooler show in town.

I doubt that anybody here has any negativity to bestow upon genuine rugby fans. It's the other 90% or so that are beneath contempt.

And I probably will look think a little less of those who hop onboard our own wagon if and when it stops moving. I won't make a big deal about it because their money would certainly be welcomed but somebody who is only willing to support a local team when they're succesful doesn't deserve the same respect as somebody who follows them regardless of form and profile irrespective of the sporting code we're tlking about.

I agree with you there as the majority of Munster fans are bandwagoners and have abandoned or never supported an AIL club, it is very frustrating going to matches and listening to these "Munster Fans" talking ****e or losing out on tickets to matches to these people. I just don't like when all fans are thought to be this way( i know thats not what your saying but alot of people think of all Munster fans as bandwagoners and it can be frustrating).

They can all come to Jackman Park on friday though and spend their money if they want

....... no seriously though i know there will be alot of people jumping on to the limerick boat if they start becoming successful but i suppose thats the majority of the Irish sporting public for you and their is nothing can be done about it. There are also lots of genuine fans out their that probably need that push to go to matches aswell or that supported them years ago and for whatever reason stopped going to matches. Hopefully Limerick can tap into these kinds of fans and not the ones that only want to watch Limerick if they are in the premier playing top teams week in week out and won't go to the lesser matches.

**Dark Horse** · 22/10/2008, 4:05 PM

TBH there are people in Limerick born and breed that have been to Old Trafford more times than go and watch Limerick play and I for one think its a disgrace.

**LK37oldskool** · 22/10/2008, 4:12 PM

have to agree with all the above comments.having spent years going to Garryowen matchs and the inter pros(remember those!) when success came along for Team Munster i could not get a Heiniken Cup ticket for love or money. I hope when Limerick FC get success they wont forget those few hundred that turned up every week these last few years.

**KevB76** · 22/10/2008, 5:07 PM

Originally Posted by harpin

No more questions just think the use of the word "brand" is a bad way in which to describe the club

Agreed thats a terrible way for the club to refer to itself.

Most of us see Limerick FC as a club, in other words something we are a part of, ours. (In reality its not I suppose, but the word club gives us that feeling anyway).

If its going to be referred to as a brand, thats a cold, exclusive kind of term. Gives off the impression that you are just a consumer of a product, nothing more or less. That may be closer to the reality, but I'm not taking days off work and driving 5, 6 hours to Ballybofey, Monaghan etc etc every couple of weeks to purchase a product.

**KevB76** · 22/10/2008, 5:22 PM

Originally Posted by joeSoap

If Limerick FC get promoted next season their attendances will probably quadruple because they will be playing better teams that the public want to see. Will you criticise and judge these people when they jump on the Limerick FC bandwagon? I doubt it.

I'd be very surprised if most of the regulars on here did not criticise and judge any newbies, have you not seen the stick they give some of the exisitng fans!!!

To be fair, most people on here have been following Limerick all over the country for years, even in times when there were only 50 people at home games, and that in my opinion gives them every right to consider themselves better fans than the new supporters who will hopefully be attracted when we become more succesful.

Dont get me wrong though, I look forward to the day when the club is successful and can attract all these new people, who are essential for the club to progress. I for one wont be making any judgements or critcisms.

**KevB76** · 22/10/2008, 5:24 PM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

And I probably will look think a little less of those who hop onboard our own wagon if and when it stops moving.

You serious? Who'd have thought !

**Lim till i die** · 22/10/2008, 10:47 PM

Most posts here hitting nail on the head so not gonna dwell.

Just on the "brand" thing, it's probably a much easier way for Jack Mac to get his head around things as he would have little concept of a club, coming as he does from franchise land.

l37oldskool - Garryowen?!?! FOR SHAME!!

Also, alickadoo is now officially one of my favourite words ever