QuoteNo intention of souring the atmosphere at Ireland games. But while the violence is very rare, the ignorance, as we can see is a bit more common. I wouldn't mind this 'banter' if I actually supported England once Ireland got knocked out, but like you, I don't.Originally posted by London Irish
A plea
All this talk of violence and 1G versus 2G is all pretty depressing and not why I follow the boys in green?...
However there seems to be an understanding of the 2G on this board. May I suggest that this is because there are 'seasoned' supporters here. Most of the people with the chip are on their first or second time away (usually daytrippers), with no understanding of emigration, which despite its omnipresence in Ireland prior to the late nineties and two presidents born abroad, you have to blame the Irish education authorities for that. It's hardly suprising then that these people find us a culture shock.
Gary you've been around for a long time, and you are right. Ironically, I found having an English accent was less of a problem then than after following Ireland became fashionableOriginally posted by gspain
Just to echo the above - the London Irish were travelling en masse in the 70's & 80's when it was anything but cool to follow the Irish football team.
I've always wondered what the reaction from the 1G would be to the children of continental migration of the eighties. In Germany, although there were moves to change this, it was near impossible to obtain citizenship, even if you were born there, unless you had a German parent (exceptions being sportsmen/women that are 'fast - tracked' for citizenship). I always thought that as Holland has no imperial connection to Ireland (King Billy 3 excepted), you would escape what I regarded as the 'colonial mentality'. But hearing you, that argument goes out the window.Originally posted by brine2
I was born in Ireland, but have lived in Holland for most of my life. People in Holland don't consider me Dutch at all, and I always call myself Irish and never Dutch. I'm a foreigner living in Holland, and that's the way it is. However, it annoys me when I go back to Ireland and I meet all these people with massive chips on their shoulders who don't consider you as Irish as themselves just because your accent isn't as thick as theirs or because you don't know one or two slang words that they do. It makes you feel like you don't belong anywhere anymore.
Wasn't he going to marry my sister Jennny?Originally posted by Junior
I was thinking more 'Puff Paddy...........'
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