Drogs penalty-possible FAI Smudge?

[passerrby]

take your point harpo but you are either tax compliant or you are not and licensing originally stated that you could not receive a licence if you were not but soon changed there tune when they realised they would not have 22 teams starting the season hence the acceptance of the intrem one

[OneRedArmy]

As an aside, should the thread title not read "possible FAI fudge"?

Or is the OP Rico in disguise?

[SMorgan]

Is that a rhetorical question?

Funny, I thought Cork were docked ten points almost as soon as the examiner was confirmed (the problems were obvious from a while back when Arkaga pulled out), so the original post occurred to me too, but I could well be wrong. In that case, we're just waiting for the next meeting of the FAI licencing committee. Can't see how they can avoid a ten point deduction.

My recollection is that the Examiner went to the FAI in the days after his appointment to ask that the sanction against Cork City be speedily delivered, as having the issue hanging over the club, for a prolonged period, would obstruct him in securing the clubs future. The body concerned duly obliged.

Its not necessarily a good sign for Drogheda United if the Examiner doesn't make a similar request to the FAI early next week. That may well be an indication that he'll have difficulty getting investment for the club.

[Billy Lord]

Rovers got no points deduction for entering Examinership.

The FAI make it up as they go along so nothing would surprise me here...

Rovers were deducted all points earned pre-examinership.

[Student Mullet]

Rovers were deducted all points earned pre-examinership.

Yes but the reason given for the points deduction was filing incorrect accounts.

[Billy Lord]

Yes but the reason given for the points deduction was filing incorrect accounts.

But they only accepted that the accounts were bogus when the club entered examinership and the truth became inescapable. Just as Drogheda's accounts are/were fictitious if they haven't paid the taxman as required by law and/or FAI rules. The precedents are obvious, regardless of semantics.

[Student Mullet]

But semantics become important when dealing with a rulebook.

[roversforever]

Dear God let's hope not. I'm sure it would be great for Sligo but would be an absolute disaster for the league and a blow to the hard work of the last few years.

The same sligo that derry have failed to beat on 3 occasions this season......

[dcfc1928]

The same sligo that derry have failed to beat on 3 occasions this season......

The very same. But would Sligo compete to the same level as Derry, Pats, Cork and Drogs have in Europe over the last few seasons? It would be interesting to find out and if yous do get a place by default because Cork and Drogs have lived above their means then good luck.

[Dodge]

The very same. But would Sligo compete to the same level as Derry, Pats, Cork and Drogs have in Europe over the last few seasons?

Oh yeah Sligo could easily lose to an Armenian side or lose 5-0 in denmark. No bother

[dcfc1928]

Oh yeah Sligo could easily lose to an Armenian side or lose 5-0 in denmark. No bother

Could yous beat former UEFA Cup winners home and away for instance or hold the likes of PSG scoreless at home or score five away from home against Scotland's representatives? As I said it would be interesting.

[Red&White Rover]

I don't know how Sligo Rovers would be bad for the league in Europe?

We play nice football, nice little ground, we'll have a decent amount of fans. Not to mention how good we could have been this season, if we'd had a small portion of Luck come our way at various times...

I'm lost as to how we'll be a "disaster" to the league...

[tiktok]

But would Sligo compete to the same level as Derry, Pats, Cork and Drogs have in Europe over the last few seasons?

Would Cork and Drogs now compete to the same level as Derry, Pats, Cork and Drogs have in Europe over the last few seasons? For the record, CCFC were rubbish in Europe this season, we managed a home 2-2 draw and then lost 4-0 away.

We'll have four teams earning coefficient points next season for the first time.
Bohs, Pats, Derry from the league.
Potentially Galway if they won the cup.
Sligo, Shamrock Rovers, Drogs, CCFC in contention if Galway don't win the cup, but with CCFC and Drogs unlikely (IMO) to get a UEFA licence.
As it stands and looking at how the teams involved will be set-up next season, Sligo are probably the best option for that fourth spot.

[Mr A]

Considering the state of the league, the co efficient is the least of our bloody problems.

[Dodge]

Could yous beat former UEFA Cup winners home and away for instance or hold the likes of PSG scoreless at home or score five away from home against Scotland's representatives? As I said it would be interesting.

Yous being Pats? Yeah I'd say our run this year was equal to yours a few years ago. Fine runs both of them. Just hate the way fans of certain club have selective memories about european campaigns.
If Sligo get in next year, I wish them the best. They'll be doing it for themselves and not the league.

I'm lost as to how we'll be a "disaster" to the league...

It wouldn't be, regrdless of the results. Some people just like complaining about everything on the internet. Every Irish club that has entered europe has had disappointing results.

[Rovers Maniac]

TO be honest i started the thread and i suppose i was thinking more of the getting into the setanta cup the UEFA Cup. Anyway if Galway win their semi final my understanding is they will get into the UEFA Cup? So all this talk of us being a disaster will be folly.

[Dodge]

Galway would need to either win the Cup, or lose to Bohs in the final. If they lost to Pats in the final (howver ridiculous that seems) they'd get nothing

There's no way I can see Drogheda getting a licence for europe next year, and if there's a similar rule to the rule that stops UK clubs entering europe if they've been in administration it'd mean that Cork couldn't enter europe either.

[pineapple stu]

I think we're going to have to start getting used to not drawing with Kiev from now on, to be honest. Complaining that Sligo won't do as well as clubs have done in the past few years shows an amazing ignorance as to what actually caused those few good results.

Every Irish club that has entered europe has had disappointing results.

Curse that disappointing home draw against the Bulgarian team with two senior internationals.

[sligoman]

Galway would need to either win the Cup, or lose to Bohs in the final. If they lost to Pats in the final (howver ridiculous that seems) they'd get nothing

Why's that? I was under the impression that if Galway got past Derry then they were guaranteed the 4th spot in Europe no matter what. This makes things a bit more interesting for us now*

*Although I still expect Derry to beat Galway anyway

[GenerationXI]

Would Cork and Drogs now compete to the same level as Derry, Pats, Cork and Drogs have in Europe over the last few seasons? For the record, CCFC were rubbish in Europe this season, we managed a home 2-2 draw and then lost 4-0 away.

We'll have four teams earning coefficient points next season for the first time.
Bohs, Pats, Derry from the league.
Potentially Galway if they won the cup.
Sligo, Shamrock Rovers, Drogs, CCFC in contention if Galway don't win the cup, but with CCFC and Drogs unlikely (IMO) to get a UEFA licence.
As it stands and looking at how the teams involved will be set-up next season, Sligo are probably the best option for that fourth spot.

God don't wish that on any of us. It looks like they'll avoid relegation too if Drogs do get their deduction. I'm sickened.

What of Bohs? I saw on the congratulations thread people were bringing things up about them having bought the league etc. Can anyone say with certainty A) What teams are in financial trouble which will incure sanctions from the FAI? B) Who is likely to be relegated as a consequence of such irregularities?