Petty GAA Officials

**Newryrep** · 27/10/2008, 7:41 AM

Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

I'll defer to your first hand experience Newryrep. I'm going on what I'm being told and am reading. ...was any reason at all given as to why your banner had to come down?

I think he just mentioned that 'security' or something came/or asked for it to be taken down and it was taken down, I ony noticed at half time as the large one on Upper Hogan was gone so I checked my own. Not sure who physically removed it as I was watching the game.

I got the impression he (the steward) didnt have a high opinion of whoever the request came from.

**OneRedArmy** · 28/10/2008, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

eh ORA, where did you get this from?! Did you help sign the agreement?!

Straight from the horses mouth at the FAI Fans Forum.

And no, I didn't sign the agreement, as I wouldn't have paid the broken glass spreaders a cent.

**paul_oshea** · 28/10/2008, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Straight from the horses mouth at the FAI Fans Forum.

And no, I didn't sign the agreement, as I wouldn't have paid the broken glass spreaders a cent.

I don't know if I can really be bothered to reply to the last sentence but Ill try and give a quick summation as to what you are saying. If for example bohs, derry or ireland fans were out causing trouble at a match you and your cronies would be on here saying, this was a tiny minority, these aren't real derry fans etc etc. Objectivity is a great thing when you don't have a personal empathy to one side or the other. This broken glass stuff happened feck all over the country etc and was done by some ignorant narrow minded fools the same fools you see on a saturday night looking for fights.

Anyway enjoy your boycott, I hope you don't mind missing out on watching us play Italy when we are on the crest of a wave and qualifying for a world cup. Oh well at least I can only assume you are boycotting as you wouldn't pay the "broken glass spraeders" a cent....

I hope that boycott extends to rugby and eh those other gaelic matches you were at in croke park too

"wouldn't" and "have" are very similar in certain circumstances

**gspain** · 28/10/2008, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I don't know if I can really be bothered to reply to the last sentence but Ill try and give a quick summation as to what you are saying. If for example bohs, derry or ireland fans were out causing trouble at a match you and your cronies would be on here saying, this was a tiny minority, these aren't real derry fans etc etc. Objectivity is a great thing when you don't have a personal empathy to one side or the other. This broken glass stuff happened feck all over the country etc and was done by some ignorant narrow minded fools the same fools you see on a saturday night looking for fights.

Anyway enjoy your boycott, I hope you don't mind missing out on watching us play Italy when we are on the crest of a wave and qualifying for a world cup. Oh well at least I can only assume you are boycotting as you wouldn't pay the "broken glass spraeders" a cent....

I hope that boycott extends to rugby and eh those other gaelic matches you were at in croke park too

"wouldn't" and "have" are very similar in certain circumstances

AFAIK it hasn't happened in over 25 years. However it wasn't local yobs. In many cases it was the main guys in the local GAA club.

I know people who have firsthand experience of this. One guy who hadn't missed a home game for many years still hasn't gone to Corke Park. Another only decided to go on the morning of the Wales game. He still goes to all home and most away games.

Although I've never had to pick broken glass out of a goalmouth myself I've expereinced firsthand also the bigotry of the GAA at the time. Things are a lot better now (at least in the Republic) but there is a story that the media in this country won't touch.

**paul_oshea** · 28/10/2008, 3:39 PM

Gary I was't saying it was yobs, what I was saying is they are cut from the same ilk as those ignoramouses who fight lads "from outta town" on a saturday night. The ones who don't acheive much in life and their local community.

Come to think of it I remember playing on pitches that had broken glass but I always assumed it was just some eejit leaving a glass bottle that got smashed on the field.

**OneRedArmy** · 28/10/2008, 3:47 PM

Paul, you asked a question about the use of the big screen in Croker as you doubted the accuracy of what I said.

I clarified.

The last sentence was indeed petty, narrow-minded and historic but reflects my opinion that the FAI shouldn't have allowed itself to be bent over a barrel to play in Croker. And as far as I'm concerned, not allowing "soccer" to be shown on the big screen is a continuation of the historic defensive GAA mindset.

**paul_oshea** · 28/10/2008, 8:12 PM

ORA, I can't remember for definite as its been a while but i assume you can as you have probably been there more recently than I have for gaelic, unfortunately coming from where I do I don't have much of a reason to be in croker lately

, but I don't remember them ever showing replays of the gaelic during half time either - i always remembered it as sponsorship ads etc. But I take the point if thats not the case.

**OneRedArmy** · 29/10/2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

ORA, I can't remember for definite as its been a while but i assume you can as you have probably been there more recently than I have for gaelic, unfortunately coming from where I do I don't have much of a reason to be in croker lately

, but I don't remember them ever showing replays of the gaelic during half time either - i always remembered it as sponsorship ads etc. But I take the point if thats not the case.

Paul its irrelevant what the GAA show. I couldn't care less if they show two donkeys in a field.

The relevant point is that, despite being paid a large amount of rent, they inserted a clause in the agreement prohibiting "soccer" being shown on the screen.

**paul_oshea** · 29/10/2008, 10:32 AM

I know what you are saying but I'm saying that I don't ever remember that screen actually showing anything other than advertisments during G.A.A games....

**jbyrne** · 29/10/2008, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Paul its irrelevant what the GAA show. I couldn't care less if they show two donkeys in a field.

The relevant point is that, despite being paid a large amount of rent, they inserted a clause in the agreement prohibiting "soccer" being shown on the screen.

thats just not true. the tv pictures of the match is shown during the game with highlights at HT and replays during the game. exactly as it is at GAA matches

**OneRedArmy** · 29/10/2008, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

thats just not true. the tv pictures of the match is shown during the game with highlights at HT and replays during the game. exactly as it is at GAA matches

Read the thread above. I was referring to the showing of other football other than the match in question. I had realised that they show replays and highlights...

**jbyrne** · 29/10/2008, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Read the thread above. I was referring to the showing of other football other than the match in question. I had realised that they show replays and highlights...

sure what else would they have to show except the match people are there to attend? are they supposed to put something different on each screen? maybe they could hand everyone in the crowd a remote control so they can choose what they see. i think the complaint is very weak

**OneRedArmy** · 29/10/2008, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

sure what else would they have to show except the match people are there to attend? are they supposed to put something different on each screen? maybe they could hand everyone in the crowd a remote control so they can choose what they see. i think the complaint is very weak

The FAI wanted to show excerpts from MNS.

**endabob1** · 29/10/2008, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

The FAI wanted to show excerpts from MNS.

If it was that important to them then why did they sign the deal?

The fact that the GAA own the stadium and the FAI are paying for the right to use it gives/gave the GAA the upper hand in the negotiations, Clearly they would be foolish not to recognise this and to take advantage of it for their own benefit. You & I may think it's petty but they undoubtedly see it as looking after their own product and unfortunately as it stands they call the shots, I don't doubt for 1 second had the situations been reversed the FAI would be playing hardball just as much.
Incidentally it seems the GAA & IRFU have a more amicable relationship, than with the FAI perhaps the FAI need to look at their part in the deal?

**jbyrne** · 29/10/2008, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by endabob1

Incidentally it seems the GAA & IRFU have a more amicable relationship, than with the FAI perhaps the FAI need to look at their part in the deal?

this is due to the IRFU being an all-Ireland body and the FAI being just a body for the 26 counties

**OneRedArmy** · 29/10/2008, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by endabob1

You & I may think it's petty but they undoubtedly see it as looking after their own product and unfortunately as it stands they call the shots, ?

It is petty, that was the point.

Originally Posted by endabob1

Incidentally it seems the GAA & IRFU have a more amicable relationship, than with the FAI perhaps the FAI need to look at their part in the deal?

The IRFU to date, haven't been much of a threat in terms of grassroots playing numbers. Soccer has always been the no1 enemy.

With the recent successes in provincial and national rugby and a fairly sizeable increase in recreational playing base (not yet translated into the adult game), I wouldn't be surprised to see the GAA position harden.

**jbyrne** · 29/10/2008, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

The FAI wanted to show excerpts from MNS.

fact or heresay? if fact, source?

**OneRedArmy** · 29/10/2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

fact or heresay? if fact, source?

http://foot.ie/showpost.php?p=1048103&postcount=82

**John83** · 29/10/2008, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

fact or heresay? if fact, source?

Noel Mooney said it. Take from that what you will.

**paul_oshea** · 29/10/2008, 1:31 PM

Originally Posted by jbyrne

sure what else would they have to show except the match people are there to attend? are they supposed to put something different on each screen? maybe they could hand everyone in the crowd a remote control so they can choose what they see. i think the complaint is very weak

HAHA

ORA you didnt make that clear, i certainly didn't figure out thats what you meant till pointed out by Jbryne. A remote would be class quickest on the draw if ye get me!