Setanta Cup Final

**dcfcsteve** · 25/10/2008, 7:12 PM

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Still better than half empty RDS like last years FAI Cup Final plus the atmosphere will be better down here as the placer looks like it will be sold out.

The RDS isn't the only stadium in Dublin, and has never been talked of as a possible final venue, so it's irrelevant in this discussion. Sure why not talk of the alternative of a 95% empty Croker...?

Originally Posted by corkboy360

Cork City and Glentoran to be the first 2 teams to sell out a setanta cup final????

Thanks to a reduced capacity in what would already have been the smallest stadium yet to host it anyway.....

**razor** · 25/10/2008, 9:26 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

A choice of Final location that was wrong on sporting and tournament-prestige reasons now also appears to be going wrong in terms of physical preparedness as well....

If there was even a small risk the St Annes End couldn't be 100% guaranteed available, Turners Cross shouldn't have got the Final.

Good to see the one man crusade continue.
Keep it up Steve.
Fight the good fight.

**corkboy360** · 26/10/2008, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

The RDS isn't the only stadium in Dublin, and has never been talked of as a possible final venue, so it's irrelevant in this discussion. Sure why not talk of the alternative of a 95% empty Croker...?

yes it was

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Thanks to a reduced capacity in what would already have been the smallest stadium yet to host it anyway.....

Well if ye won the semi it would of been a smaller capacity.

**micls** · 26/10/2008, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

The RDS isn't the only stadium in Dublin, and has never been talked of as a possible final venue, so it's irrelevant in this discussion. Sure why not talk of the alternative of a 95% empty Croker...?

Em yes it was. It was being touted as the Dublin option

**L37Ultra** · 27/10/2008, 1:47 AM

Does anyone know if there are going to be tickets made available for netural fans or if there will be tickets available at Turners Cross on the night of the game.

**Candystripe** · 27/10/2008, 2:18 AM

[QUOTE=corkboy360;1047234]

Well if ye won the semi it would of been a smaller capacity.[/QUOTE

Actually I reckon the final would have been moved to Windsor.No way would we have been able to host the amount of Glens fans who would have wanted to attend.

**adamd164** · 27/10/2008, 10:22 AM

FAO L37Ultra, tickets are on sale in our club shop in the city centre. However, our initial allocation is apparently gone and more are due in. I would highly doubt there'll be any on the night available.

**adamd164** · 27/10/2008, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Candystripe

Actually I reckon the final would have been moved to Windsor.No way would we have been able to host the amount of Glens fans who would have wanted to attend.

Boohoo, you didn't win. Move on.

Why are Derry fans insistent on trying to spin this as us ****ing Glentoran over?

**R�iteoir** · 27/10/2008, 11:34 AM

because maybe - with a small grain of truth in it - it is screwing them over?

**adamd164** · 27/10/2008, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

because maybe - with a small grain of truth in it - it is screwing them over?

If you mean because it's in our home ground, then were Drogs "screwed over" last season when they had to play the game at Linfield's ground?

If you mean because the distance they have to travel, then tough: it's the FAI's year to host the final and they have the right to choose any of their constituent grounds for it. If the shoe was on the other foot (i.e. if it was next year and the IFA's turn to host it), would the IFA have felt sorry for us and played it in Dublin? Yeah, right!

It's only ever been in a neutral venue once: when we played Drogs in 2006, both teams from the same national association.

**BohsPartisan** · 27/10/2008, 1:33 PM

I think the whole way the Setanta cup final is always unfair on someone but that's not Cork's fault. It has been the way it was run from day one. Having said that, no one complains about the FAI cup final being in Dublin every year so get over it everyone and enjoy what should be a good spectacle. Glens will bring a good cowd, Cork will have a good crowd and it should make for a good atmosphere.

**R�iteoir** · 27/10/2008, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by adamd164

If you mean because it's in our home ground, then were Drogs "screwed over" last season when they had to play the game at Linfield's ground?

If you mean because the distance they have to travel, then tough: it's the FAI's year to host the final and they have the right to choose any of their constituent grounds for it. If the shoe was on the other foot (i.e. if it was next year and the IFA's turn to host it), would the IFA have felt sorry for us and played it in Dublin? Yeah, right!

It's only ever been in a neutral venue once: when we played Drogs in 2006, both teams from the same national association.

As I said - I look forward to making to trip to Stangmore Park to watch Bohs take on Dungannon in next year's Final

**adamd164** · 27/10/2008, 2:38 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

I think the whole way the Setanta cup final is always unfair on someone but that's not Cork's fault. It has been the way it was run from day one. Having said that, no one complains about the FAI cup final being in Dublin every year so get over it everyone and enjoy what should be a good spectacle. Glens will bring a good cowd, Cork will have a good crowd and it should make for a good atmosphere.

Well said.

**micls** · 27/10/2008, 3:24 PM

Originally Posted by L37Ultra

Does anyone know if there are going to be tickets made available for netural fans or if there will be tickets available at Turners Cross on the night of the game.

There won't be any left on the night from the way sales are going

**dcfcsteve** · 27/10/2008, 3:44 PM

Originally Posted by BohsPartisan

I think the whole way the Setanta cup final is always unfair on someone but that's not Cork's fault. It has been the way it was run from day one. Having said that, no one complains about the FAI cup final being in Dublin every year so get over it everyone and enjoy what should be a good spectacle. Glens will bring a good cowd, Cork will have a good crowd and it should make for a good atmosphere.

Not well said at all - you've missed the point.

Firstly - no-one complains about the FAI Cup Final being in Dublin, as everyone pretty much accepts that it should be. It's a big, prestigious final.

Prior to this season everyone had likewise accepted that the Setanta Final should be in Belfast or Dublin. That's why the decision to award the venue deliberately to a finalist for the first time ever - remember that in previous season's it's only been hosted by a finalist by default/coincidence - has been greeted with concern by a broad range of people.

Secondly - you suggest that not using neutral grounds "has been the way it was run form day one". So why was Cork v Drogs played at a neutral ground then ? The first Setanta final would also have been at a neutral ground had Linfield not made it, as it was always planned to be Windsor.

**micls** · 27/10/2008, 3:57 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Prior to this season everyone had likewise accepted that the Setanta Final should be in Belfast or Dublin. That's why the decision to award the venue deliberately to a finalist for the first time ever - remember that in previous season's it's only been hosted by a finalist by default/coincidence - has been greeted with concern by a broad range of people.

Em wrong again. We were awarded the final last year too....had we made it. Decision was made before the semi final.

So its not the first time ever.

**dcfcsteve** · 27/10/2008, 4:09 PM

Originally Posted by micls

Em wrong again. We were awarded the final last year too....had we made it. Decision was made before the semi final.

So its not the first time ever.

Cork were awarded the final last year - had yees made it...?!?

Likewise I was awarded a Gold medal at the Beijing Olympics. Had I made it...

So why weren't yees similarly awarded in 2006 - when yee's did make it...?

No matter what spin or self-delusion people try to put on it - the prestige and standing of the Setanta has been cheapened by putting it on a par with the League Cup in terms of Final venue choice. A poor decision that is guaranteed to back-fire in future. Made even worse by the fact the chosen venue won't even be ready as was originally promised.

**micls** · 27/10/2008, 4:13 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Cork were awarded the final last year - had yees made it...?!?

Likewise I was awarded a Gold medal at the Beijing Olympics. Had I made it...

So why weren't yees similarly awarded in 2006 - when yee's did make it...?

No matter what spin or self-delusion people try to put on it - the prestige and standing of the Setanta has been cheapened by putting it on a par with the League Cup in terms of Final venue choice. A poor decision that is guaranteed to back-fire in future. Made even worse by the fact the chosen venue won't even be ready as was originally promised.

You claimed this was the first time this decision had been made, it wasnt. In 2006 The Shed was in the process of being torn down, hence the stadium was not fit to hold the final.

Prestige

Its the Setanta cup ffs, just above the league cup in terms of prestige. It's been at a neutral venue once ever and only because neither ground of the finalists could hold the thing.

Originally promised? You on the SSC committee or something? How do you know what was promised?

**BohsPartisan** · 27/10/2008, 4:58 PM

Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

Secondly - you suggest that not using neutral grounds "has been the way it was run form day one". So why was Cork v Drogs played at a neutral ground then ? The first Setanta final would also have been at a neutral ground had Linfield not made it, as it was always planned to be Windsor.

Why did they switch it from one non-neutral ground to another? That doesn't make sense! As for Drogs, United park wasn't suibtable obviously, so in the same way they play their European home games in Dublin, so too the Setanta cup.

You lot are very vocal considering you had three out of the last four tin cup finals in The Brandywell!