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    Lads don't think it was mentioned that every team that qualified to Europe actually paid 100% of every players wages on time for the whole year. The only other 2 are Shams and UCD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inside Man View Post
    Lads don't think it was mentioned that every team that qualified to Europe actually paid 100% of every players wages on time for the whole year. The only other 2 are Shams and UCD.
    If you mean the teams that player this year, I think you're forgetting Drogheda.
    If you means the teams that qualified this year for next, I think Sligo asked players to take a paycut, so they weren't paid 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    If you mean the teams that player this year, I think you're forgetting Drogheda.
    If you means the teams that qualified this year for next, I think Sligo asked players to take a paycut, so they weren't paid 100%
    paul cook complimented the mc last week for never leaving a player one penny short and on time every week this season. playing staff numbers were cutback mid season but no one was left short of money

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    Five clubs in the Premier paid their players 100%, on time, all the time. Sligo weren't one of them. (So I was told after our last match).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Five clubs in the Premier paid their players 100%, on time, all the time. Sligo weren't one of them. (So I was told after our last match).
    Is that a rule either in the Licensing or the participation agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Five clubs in the Premier paid their players 100%, on time, all the time. Sligo weren't one of them. (So I was told after our last match).
    and cook has told a number of people that this is the case so you would want to check your sources stu(or you are saying your friend knows more than paul cook) . this is where these gutter journalists get their info so you should be careful before you post cr*p like this on foot.ie

    from sligo weekender


    This is especially true when the club’s financial woes are considered – these debts, now almost erased via extensive fund-raising initiatives, still never hindered the weekly payment of players’ wages – and the fact that Cook had to cull his first-team squad due to unforeseen budget constraints.

    “All round it would be fair to say that it has been a good year for the players, Gerry [Carr] and myself and the Management Committee. People must realise that the club has done a good job [with finances] in difficult circumstances.” “We’ve had a smashing year – apart from getting knocked out of the FAI Cup – and we have one last hurdle on Friday.

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    http://www.sligoweekender.ie/news/story/?trs=mhgbsnaucw

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    By Michael Moran

    Wednesday October 15 2008

    "To get this far in the season unhindered in that regard is a fantastic achievement by all involved and it should be acknowledged," Cook said.

    "On my own behalf and on behalf of Gerry Carr (Rovers Assistant Manager) and the players I want to thank the Committee for their work. They have not been an hour late with wages, despite a difficult time lately in terms of finance," he added.

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    http://www.sligochampion.ie/sport/so...e-1500914.html

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    Without being too facetious, a manager's word on financial aspects of a club aren't worth a ****
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Without being too facetious, a manager's word on financial aspects of a club aren't worth a ****
    you obviously have no understanding of pauls cook honesty - no players of sligo was left one penny short on his wages at any time this year and if you cant accept that , prove your sources. this is the sort of made up bu****** this forum can do without.

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    Relax, I didn't say anything about Sligo's finances but in general, managers will say anything
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    Did Sligo tear up contracts mid-season to let players go, for example?

    You can fail to honour players' contracts in full and yet still not be an hour late with the agreed payment.

    Wish people wouldn't get so hysterically uppy whenever somebody hints that maybe their club isn't the best run thing since sliced bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Did Sligo tear up contracts mid-season to let players go, for example?

    You can fail to honour players' contracts in full and yet still not be an hour late with the agreed payment.

    Wish people wouldn't get so hysterically uppy whenever somebody hints that maybe their club isn't the best run thing since sliced bread.

    They didnt tear up any cotracts but it was of benefit that players left.
    Anto Murphy wanted back to Dublin and was let go.
    Faz sold to Drogheda.
    Moore was on a pay as you play contract.
    Foy was under contract but there was a claus in it that he could be let go in the July window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Did Sligo tear up contracts mid-season to let players go, for example?

    You can fail to honour players' contracts in full and yet still not be an hour late with the agreed payment.

    Wish people wouldn't get so hysterically uppy whenever somebody hints that maybe their club isn't the best run thing since sliced bread.
    Stop digging stu- we agreed termination package of foys and moores contracts which is the clubs right as they were on pay per play contracts . that is any clubs right.

    You have no right to say that sligo rovers did not play all their players all their wages on time.

    what i hate is people who wont admit that they are wrong and withdraw the comment and then accuse people who are telling the truth about being hysterically uppy. Our club is on a solid financial footing and i wont accept people like you belittling the work of the people and mc of sligo rovers after all the hard work

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    Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Did Sligo tear up contracts mid-season to let players go, for example?

    You can fail to honour players' contracts in full and yet still not be an hour late with the agreed payment.

    Wish people wouldn't get so hysterically uppy whenever somebody hints that maybe their club isn't the best run thing since sliced bread.
    Since when did operating within the T&Cs of an employment contract equate to not being well run?

    I'd argue the opposite. Thats why you have T&Cs in a contract after all.

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    Do you know if there were T&Cs? Or were players just gotten rid of? (I don't, incidentally).

    I'd say having to let people go because you ran into serious budgetary difficulties after forgetting you'd have to pay some back tax isn't something the best run companies do, to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Do you know if there were T&Cs? Or were players just gotten rid of? (I don't, incidentally).

    I'd say having to let people go because you ran into serious budgetary difficulties after forgetting you'd have to pay some back tax isn't something the best run companies do, to be honest.
    Well if it was contrary to T&C's then I'd imagine the players in question would be straight to their solicitors and would have gotten a large settlement or would still be at the clubs?

    I think we all know most football clubs are unlikely to be given an award for financial probity, but given businesses all over the country are making people redundant and are amending existing employees contracts, I think we're in danger of applying a higher standard.

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    Wasn't trying to single Sligo out for this (and absolutely agree they shouldn't). But don't think they should get undeserved pats on the back either. I'm cynical like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Wasn't trying to single Sligo out for this (and absolutely agree they shouldn't). But don't think they should get undeserved pats on the back either. I'm cynical like that.
    I think they saw the problems coming and nipped them in the bud. They'll see the benefit of that next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Wasn't trying to single Sligo out for this (and absolutely agree they shouldn't). But don't think they should get undeserved pats on the back either. I'm cynical like that.

    You were very critical of there supporters this season while they were raising money for their own club.
    The Sligo Rovers fans are correct they they accuse you of not being able to admit when you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce View Post
    You were very critical of there supporters this season while they were raising money for their own club.
    I don't think that's true. He was very critical of the attitude that since they'd raised some money, everything was going to be absolutely fine from now on. As it turned out, he was probably overestimating Sligo's troubles, but the attitude was valid if adversarial.

    The Sligo Rovers fans are correct they they accuse you of not being able to admit when you are wrong.
    He's slow to do it, yes. Most of us are. Mainly though, he's very slow to take the word of some fans or a manager or chairman that everything was hunky dory when he's heard otherwise, which, while it's a clear bias, is an understandable one born of miserable experience that the bad news tends to be true in this league.

    That said, in this instance, there doesn't appear to be any good evidence that Sligo reneged on contracts or deferred wages, so he'd probably be best keeping that opinion to himself.
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