Leagues Financial facts & Rumours thread

[pineapple stu]

I think they saw the problems coming and nipped them in the bud. They'll see the benefit of that next season.

True. But that's not what I was talking about in the post.

You were very critical of there supporters this season while they were raising money for their own club.

Links please? Or should I wait for you to admit you're wrong?

If I'm wrong, I acknowledge as much. (Speed is a different issue...). I'm sure you can do a search in my posts if you want.

[sligored]

[QUOTE=pineapple stu;1065363]True. But that's not what I was talking about in the post.

what were you talking about in the post. you were talking about non payment of all wages by sligo rovers stu-prove it or admit you are wrong .

and you said "Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree so"

i have validated my earlier post - you are only replying to selective parts of the argument and dodged the real issue. i know this is a facts and rumours thread and i am telling the facts and you are spreading unsubstantiated rumours.

[Mr A]

Annnnnyway.

From the sound of things on the Drogheda forum the latest East Meath Council meeting has not gone their way and they're looking even more f**ked than previously, if that's even possible.

[pineapple stu]

i have validated my earlier post - you are only replying to selective parts of the argument and dodged the real issue. i know this is a facts and rumours thread and i am telling the facts and you are spreading unsubstantiated rumours.

Your validation has been dismissed as easily flawed by a neutral party (not that it is flawed, but that it could easily be).

Facts and unsubstantiated rumours are very difficult to distinguish on an internet message board in such a small world as the eL where everyone knows everyone and news spreads. Your fact is presented with no more grounding than mine.

[Inside Man]

Your validation has been dismissed as easily flawed by a neutral party (not that it is flawed, but that it could easily be).

Facts and unsubstantiated rumours are very difficult to distinguish on an internet message board in such a small world as the eL where everyone knows everyone and news spreads. Your fact is presented with no more grounding than mine.

Look Stu the facts are: Sligo Rovers stayed within their business and moral bounderies this season. Did not ask players to take % pay cut, were not late by one minute in paying wages this season.
Source; Chairman; Michael Toolin, Manager; Paul Cook, Assistant manager; Gerry carr, every member of playing staff, Every single Rovers fan on this forum.

However you state: Five clubs in the Premier paid their players 100%, on time, all the time. Sligo weren't one of them.
Source: Yourself. And an unknown source from your last UCD match.


THOSE ARE THE FACTS
And don't even think of going knit picking Stu, Your simply wrong.

[pineapple stu]

The source was a UCD committee member, if you want it. They've been right on plenty of other stuff before.

LOL at using every single Sligo fan on this forum to back up your argument! In addition, your only source is a journalist quoting Paul Cook - no players, no nothing. That source, it's already been pointed out, could be flawed.

I'll leave it there.

[Inside Man]

Look Stu the facts are: Sligo Rovers stayed within their business and moral bounderies this season. Did not ask players to take % pay cut, were not late by one minute in paying wages this season.
Source; Chairman; Michael Toolin, Manager; Paul Cook, Assistant manager; Gerry carr, every member of playing staff, Every single Rovers fan on this forum.

However you state: Five clubs in the Premier paid their players 100%, on time, all the time. Sligo weren't one of them.
Source: Yourself. And an unknown source from your last UCD match.


THOSE ARE THE FACTS
And don't even think of going knit picking Stu, Your simply wrong.

The source was a UCD committee member, if you want it. They've been right on plenty of other stuff before.

LOL at using every single Sligo fan on this forum to back up your argument! In addition, your only source is a journalist quoting Paul Cook - no players, no nothing. That source, it's already been pointed out, could be flawed.

I'll leave it there.

I'm sorry but when i said all playing staff, it has been from talking to them personnally, and Paul Cook as a matter of fact.
The fact that you still think you are right just makes me feel sad for you mate. You may not be wrong alot in life but you have seriously made a fool of yourself here.
What more Sources do you want? There is not one bit of evidence of Rovers not complying with wages this year but for you and your UCD Committee member, do you realise how stupid that sounds?
Now if I was to just through something out there it would be, take a minute Stu. Re-think this arguement and admit you were wrong.
If you reply to this post it shows me your character, it shows me that you are a stubborn person, somewhat immature and never admits when he is wrong. However if you don't reply it shows me you are man enough to stand up and say you were wrong.

[forza rovers]

The source was a UCD committee member, if you want it. They've been right on plenty of other stuff before.

LOL at using every single Sligo fan on this forum to back up your argument! In addition, your only source is a journalist quoting Paul Cook - no players, no nothing. That source, it's already been pointed out, could be flawed.

I'll leave it there.

he said it himself at the questions and answers night!

[pineapple stu]

Re-think this arguement and admit you were wrong.

Admit that what I was told by people who've been right way more often than not in the past isn't what I was told?

No.

I'm not saying Sligo are majorly screwed, I'm not saying they could be done out of a licence, I'm not even saying there was a major problem; I'm just passing on what I heard from very good sources for the sake of a rumours thread.

LOL at the notion that club officials are a bad source! Do you have any idea how close-knit (as opposed to knit picking, incidentally) this league is?

Also, take out the 10-year-old hysterics, underlining and bold. You come across like dcfcsteve, a person who loses every argument before he even starts it with that attitude.

[Battery Rover]

I spoke to someone on the Sligo management committee on the 14th October at Croke Park and all they needed to raise to be totally debt free at the end of the season and all people paid was 70k. I am sure they have managed that with gate receipts and some fundraising.

They will be pushing for the league next season in my opinion.

[Rovers Maniac]

Admit that what I was told by people who've been right way more often than not in the past isn't what I was told?

No.

I'm not saying Sligo are majorly screwed, I'm not saying they could be done out of a licence, I'm not even saying there was a major problem; I'm just passing on what I heard from very good sources for the sake of a rumours thread.

LOL at the notion that club officials are a bad source! Do you have any idea how close-knit (as opposed to knit picking, incidentally) this league is?

Also, take out the 10-year-old hysterics, underlining and bold. You come across like dcfcsteve, a person who loses every argument before he even starts it with that attitude.

Paul Cook & Our Chairman v Some ramdom UCD punter, i wonder who is the more reliable

Stu you're making a fool of yourself give it a rest and run along.

[sligoman]

They will be pushing for the league next season in my opinion.

Not if rumours that Paul Cook is leaving because of the budget offered to him for next season are to be believed.

[WoodquayBoy]

Having read comments after my post, I retract my allegation about Sligo. I thought - wrongly, it appears, and I apologise for that - the fact that Toolan and the club was out whinging abouyt the need for people to give money to the club was a sign of it being in financial trouble, or am I the only one who remembers the campaigns with deadlines set for x amount of cash to be raised.
I say again, if players were paid on time and 100%, I apologise for suggesting that was not the case, but the mutual back-slapping over being financially sound sticks in the craw a little considering the size of the begging bowl being passed around earlier this season.

[Rovers Maniac]

Having read comments after my post, I retract my allegation about Sligo. I thought - wrongly, it appears, and I apologise for that - the fact that Toolan and the club was out whinging abouyt the need for people to give money to the club was a sign of it being in financial trouble, or am I the only one who remembers the campaigns with deadlines set for x amount of cash to be raised.
I say again, if players were paid on time and 100%, I apologise for suggesting that was not the case, but the mutual back-slapping over being financially sound sticks in the craw a little considering the size of the begging bowl being passed around earlier this season.

Nobody is back slapping anybody else to be be fair, you and stu spoke rubbish you were corrected and now you have apologised thats the end of it lets move on. I am quite proud how we came through it, we had to cut our cloth and we did just that. We needed to raise funds save the club we did that, and even though we lost some of our best players but now we are in Europe and Setanta cup so ok maybe there is some back slapping going on. But it amazing reading some posts here some people would have loved to have seen us go bust.

[WoodquayBoy]

Well I for one would have HATED to see ye go bust, Connacht only has 2 clubs, and both struggled badly this year, the last thing we need is for either one of us to go ti.ts up

[GalwayRed]

But it amazing reading some posts here some people would have loved to have seen us go bust.

Its amazing that in the current state the league is in that anybody on here wants any irish club to go bust.

[maroon ultra]

Where does anyone say that they want to see a club go bust?

Its all very petty really from both sides.

[Lim till i die]

Its amazing that in the current state the league is in that anybody on here wants any irish club to go bust.

There's at least a half dozen clubs I want to see go bust.

What's wrong with you people.

[GalwayRed]

There's at least a half dozen clubs I want to see go bust.

What's wrong with you people.

I just dont see how its helping the league to wish clubs to go bust when there clearly arent clubs of a high enough quality to replace them. Im thinking for the sake of the league we need clubs of the quality of drogheda and sligo regardless of what i think of them in general

[John83]

I just dont see how its helping the league to wish clubs to go bust when there clearly arent clubs of a high enough quality to replace them. Im thinking for the sake of the league we need clubs of the quality of drogheda and sligo regardless of what i think of them in general

Imagine a season without any bad news about the league? No court cases over lost titles due to lost points due to lost documents. No banruptcies, winding up orders, unpaid wages, unpaid laundrettes, unpaid child slave labour. No ****heads throwing bricks at busses or threatening a manager's family.
We'd still have **** referees, European disasters, terrible commentators, Cork fans' misplaced sense of entitlement and mad Tom, but it'd all be worth it. And maybe we'd get somewhere. Maybe not somewhere spectacular, but somewhere real, not built on dodgy promises and dodgier debt.
Ah, who am I kidding? See you in hell*, Drogheda.

*Hell, a.k.a. the First Division.