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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy View Post
    Well I for one would have HATED to see ye go bust, Connacht only has 2 clubs, and both struggled badly this year, the last thing we need is for either one of us to go ti.ts up
    not any more what about mervue utd??
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    No banruptcies, winding up orders, unpaid wages, unpaid laundrettes, unpaid child slave labour.
    It just shows you how badly the league run when we can't even afford unpaid child labour.

    Grow a set and sort it out Delaney!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    It just shows you how badly the league run when we can't even afford unpaid child labour.

    Grow a set and sort it out Delaney!
    ****. I didn't mean to put that in. Now the secret of UCD's balanced budget is out. I must perform hari-kiri.
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    Athlone in trouble as well
    http://www.athlonetownfc.ie/?p=447#more-447

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainee View Post
    Quelle Surprise

    Love the way it's now the credit crunches falt even though a dog with a mallet up his ahem could have seen it months ago.

    Reckon we could be looking at a more "streamlined" LoI next season.

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    From reading that they have a tax bill to pay ASAP. How much of that mooted €300,000 is tax I don't know but at a guess it'd be under €100K or it would have been further progressed at this point. I suppose there could be a good bit of players' wages owed too given that their local paper was reporting something like seven weeks owed recently enough. They're not the only club I've heard of and know of having a tax liability or wages owed and I'm by no means having a go at Athlone and if it stirs the people of Athlone into action then good luck to them.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    if it stirs the people of Athlone into action then good luck to them.
    That kind of sentiment always bugs me to be honest.

    Much like in Drogheda, the people of Athlone don't care, simple as that.

    If they did the club wouldn't be in the mess they are in.

    I hate when clubs act the absolute maggot and then come out trying to put a big feel good community spin on it.

    Other clubs are breaking their ar$es trying to live within their means and you have these showers acting as shabbily as they feel like and then expecting a bail out at the end of it.

    Yes, we did it in Limerick on occassion but I was just as annoyed then, I can assure you.

    Clubs like Athlone are a scourge on the First Division.

    Now I hope they survive, honest I do, I always liked Athlone as a club, there's some good people there, but it aint so long ago they were on here bragging about their zillionaire backers and winning the league.

    And if they are waiting on 300k from the people of Athlone I shant be holding my breath.

    Moving out of St. Mels was the worst thing that club ever did. (Hilariously enough.)

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    I agree with you in lots of ways and God knows I don't have much time for the 'sporting public' of Longford which would be similar to Athlone but at some point a decision has to be made "Do we keep going?". No harm in putting it up to to the people of Athlone to have an input in that decision so they can't be complaining if and when it all goes south. As long as it's a once off though and you can't keep expecting bail outs year on year from now on.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    That kind of sentiment always bugs me to be honest.

    Much like in Drogheda, the people of Athlone don't care, simple as that.

    If they did the club wouldn't be in the mess they are in.
    Well there is a pretty general statement - wonder how many other clubs can raise 100k in a week from its uncaring supporters. Drogs should be ashamed of their uncaring selves. Intersting coming from a supporter of a club based in a city but has been plagued with money issues over the years and can gather no real substantial support from a CITY based population. Glass houses my friend and stones don't mix.


    Info on fundrasing below and amount collected so far (in 1 week)
    http://www.droghedaunited.ie/news/single/id/1508


    Also Emmett Malone was at the public meeting last week and wrote an article about it here - might change your opinion (then again maybe it wont as some people can't change)

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...337450423.html
    Last edited by SeanDrog; 11/12/2008 at 7:56 AM.

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    Yep, its make or break for us at the moment. Unfortunately we are still paying
    for sins of the past and although the "credit crunch" is being blamed, all it did
    was speed up the inevitable as past debts which were being put on the long
    finger are now biting us in the árse

    The "soccer public" are a fickle bunch, even more so the "Athlone soccer public"
    so it really is time to either all pull together or just nod, call everyone a shower
    of c u next Tuesdays-it was all better in my day (which is the current mindset
    of the majority in Athlone) and just shut up shop and close the gates.

    Mondays attendence will tell its own story.

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    Things have changed big time downhere this season. Playing budget was cut by a huge amount and this season only Wexford, Limerick and Kildare were playing of lower budgets than us. Even Monaghan were running of higher costs than us

    Seven weeks into the season a sponsor pulled out for economic reasons and that deal was worth 35k a season. In July we had another sponsor pull out and that was worth 10k a season

    It is payment of past debt that is killing us we are totally up to date with the revenue (this season), league fees, referess fees etc

    We are one of the clubs running in profit this current season even with the sponsorship problems we have had.

    We expect sponsorship to be down at least 70% next season in the midlands area.

    LTID: Maybe have a look closer to home and ask your own committee where you would be without Jack McCarthys money this current season without judging someone elses club that you know nothing about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    That kind of sentiment always bugs me to be honest.

    Much like in Drogheda, the people of Athlone don't care, simple as that.

    If they did the club wouldn't be in the mess they are in.

    I hate when clubs act the absolute maggot and then come out trying to put a big feel good community spin on it.

    Other clubs are breaking their ar$es trying to live within their means and you have these showers acting as shabbily as they feel like and then expecting a bail out at the end of it.

    Yes, we did it in Limerick on occassion but I was just as annoyed then, I can assure you.

    Clubs like Athlone are a scourge on the First Division.

    Now I hope they survive, honest I do, I always liked Athlone as a club, there's some good people there, but it aint so long ago they were on here bragging about their zillionaire backers and winning the league.

    And if they are waiting on 300k from the people of Athlone I shant be holding my breath.

    Moving out of St. Mels was the worst thing that club ever did. (Hilariously enough.)
    Whats your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    Whats your point?
    I think he is saying that its history repeating itself, clubs doing the damage to themselves and then look to others to sort themselves out.

    The age old problem with LOI Clubs, if only we could sort that one out we'd be grand
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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    I think he is saying that its history repeating itself, clubs doing the damage to themselves and then look to others to sort themselves out.

    The age old problem with LOI Clubs, if only we could sort that one out we'd be grand
    In other shock news, the world isn't flat after all and spins on its axis [gasp].

    The point is applicable to almost every club, so I'm not sure what having a pop at Athlone achieves?

    If anything I have more sympathy for Athlone as at least their money was spent on infrastructure and not straight into players pockets. That is definitely the lesser of two evils.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    In other shock news, the world isn't flat after all and spins on its axis [gasp].

    The point is applicable to almost every club, so I'm not sure what having a pop at Athlone achieves?

    If anything I have more sympathy for Athlone as at least their money was spent on infrastructure and not straight into players pockets. That is definitely the lesser of two evils.
    I don't think this debt comes from the move, but rather the big spending splurge on players directly after it.

    That said, I really hope Athlone pull through. A good club with great history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post
    Things have changed big time downhere this season. Playing budget was cut by a huge amount and this season only Wexford, Limerick and Kildare were playing of lower budgets than us. Even Monaghan were running of higher costs than us


    Unless your team and management were coming in at under €2,500 that is incorrect. From what I have heard some of your players were on 250-300 a week so cant see how you were less than ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneRedArmy View Post
    If anything I have more sympathy for Athlone as at least their money was spent on infrastructure and not straight into players pockets. That is definitely the lesser of two evils.
    Actually, most of their money problems, I would imagine, come from the ridiculous wages they gave to players in 2007. They were reported to have the highest wage bill in the division that season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    That kind of sentiment always bugs me to be honest.

    Much like in Drogheda, the people of Athlone don't care, simple as that.

    If they did the club wouldn't be in the mess they are in.
    You are aware those "uncaring" people of drogheda raised 100000 euro for their club in week right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GalwayRed View Post
    You are aware those "uncaring" people of drogheda raised 100000 euro for their club in week right?
    Correct me if I'm wrong, Droghedas problem isn't the people in surrounding areas, it is actually the fact they didn't get there ground built and lost a lot of revenue there and not to mention the money from the sale of the current ground?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Bruce View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, Droghedas problem isn't the people in surrounding areas, it is actually the fact they didn't get there ground built and lost a lot of revenue there and not to mention the money from the sale of the current ground?
    Well the current ground isn't theirs to sell, so consider yourself corrected.

    There loads of reason why Drogheda is in the mess it currently is. There's no point in trying to fit into 1 or 2 handy bite size lines.
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