Relegation 2008

[pineapple stu]

First come first served with a licence?

[El-Pietro]

If Drogheda go part time, renege on thier agreement to find a new home, and can't pay their players I cannot see them ever getting a Premier License

As for us. I have no idea. We may not exist this time next week though hopefully we will be well on our way to recovery. If we come to an agreement with the Revenue and the courts are happy then punishing us further would just be cruel.

For me, Galway have the best run in of the lot so its really in their hands. Finn Harps best after that.

I want Galway to stay up. I quite like Terryland, Finn Harps is very far and I never want to go back to St. Colmans - UCD will hopefully go down.

[Battery Rover]

First come first served with a licence?

I think if they dont decide to put everyone in the same pot next season it will be the 10 clubs that get premier licences making up the top division.

[mypost]

Would like Cobh or Galway to stay up, nice trips in store, but it will probably be between UCD and Harps, until we see what teams get relegated for financial irregularities, of which several are in the frame. Then all 4 can stay up.

[don ramo]

i dont think so at this stage, if supposedly bohs are being added to the list the legue will be a frace,

like said a 16 (or more preferably 18) team prem, with the remaining 4 teams and 3 championship teams with a few reseve teams would be best option, as i think it would spice it up, playing each other twice would add a bit more excitemnt, its to familiar your more or less playing the same teams every other month,

but what do i know

[bellavistaman]

Hope a team doesnt go by defsult messy end to the league then, saying that if we finish third last i wont mind.

[Dodge]

like said a 16 (or more preferably 18) team prem, with the remaining 4 teams and 3 championship teams with a few reseve teams would be best option, as i think it would spice it up, playing each other twice would add a bit more excitemnt, its to familiar your more or less playing the same teams every other month,

but what do i know

Anything without relegation won't work. 5 teams with somethig to play for with 2 months to go and the rest just cutting costs...

[blackholesun]

i dont think so at this stage, if supposedly bohs are being added to the list the legue will be a frace,

like said a 16 (or more preferably 18) team prem, with the remaining 4 teams and 3 championship teams with a few reseve teams would be best option, as i think it would spice it up, playing each other twice would add a bit more excitemnt, its to familiar your more or less playing the same teams every other month,

but what do i know

The ten team league was pushed for by greedy "big" teams are living beyond their means who wanted the extra "big game" / "derby" gate receipts to help balance the books.

Ten team league will be a total bore fest!

A 16 team league made of clubs living within their means is the way to go next season. That would be better for the development of football as a whole. Id love to some trips to Wexford or Athlone rather than another game against Bray.

bhs

[eelmonster]

In reality, as much as I'd like to see a 14 or 16 team top flight, I can't see the FAI allowing anything other than their planned 10 team premier division next season. Firstly, they'll have to witness it fail miserably before being convinced that it is a bad idea; secondly, is it not simply too late for anything else?

[bellavistaman]

ya for the teams that have been a constant in prem the away trips must get a bit boring

[Dodge]

Firstly, they'll have to witness it fail miserably before being convinced that it is a bad idea?

As opposed to the runaway success that was the 12 team premier, and the 16 team one division before that?

ya for the teams that have been a constant in prem the away trips must get a bit boring

maybe, but thats hardly a consideration for the league is it, whether some of us are bored of playing Cork?

[blackholesun]

In reality, as much as I'd like to see a 14 or 16 team top flight, I can't see the FAI allowing anything other than their planned 10 team premier division next season. Firstly, they'll have to witness it fail miserably before being convinced that it is a bad idea;

secondly, is it not simply too late for anything else?

What? The games dont kick off for about 5 months. A 16 team top tier could easily be quickly arranged.

Just rate the teams licence apps on a points basis and take the top 16 rather than the top 10. With so many clubs struggling financially at the mo, I think this process of accessing who are "fittest" top ten clubs is going to have to happen anyways.

bhs

[GuisaSaigon]

What? The games dont kick off for about 5 months. A 16 team top tier could easily be quickly arranged.

Just rate the teams licence apps on a points basis and take the top 16 rather than the top 10. With so many clubs struggling financially at the mo, I think this process of accessing who are "fittest" top ten clubs is going to have to happen anyways.

bhs

You could get clubs to make presentations. Some might even make a DVD!

[mypost]

What? The games dont kick off for about 5 months. A 16 team top tier could easily be quickly arranged.

Unfortunately, under the 2006 proposals, clubs basically entered into a contract which stated the league, must have a top division of 10 clubs from 2009. It cannot be changed now.

The 10-team league was a failure, is a failure, and will continue to be a failure. Just so there would be an even number of games. Nothing to do with whether it benefits the league or not.

[Battery Rover]

I know all clubs were asked to make submissions to the FAI this season as it was the end of the 3 year agreement.

[eelmonster]

As opposed to the runaway success that was the 12 team premier, and the 16 team one division before that?

And the 10 team premier before that? I wasn't advocating one division, by the way.

[Dodge]

The 10-team league was a failure, is a failure, and will continue to be a failure. Just so there would be an even number of games. Nothing to do with whether it benefits the league or not.

Was it is as biga failure as any of the other league "options"? 12 team league doing well at the moment?

How anyone (on either side of the argument) could possible think that a 10 team or 12 team league would make an ounce of difference is beyond me.

[oldyouth]

A 16 team league made of clubs living within their means is the way to go next season. That would be better for the development of football as a whole. Id love to some trips to Wexford or Athlone rather than another game against Bray.

bhs

Although Wexford have the financial stability, they are not ready to compete at a higher level yet. Regular hammerings by more established professional/semi professional teams will see fans (and players) drift away and set us back years. It's not as if we could go out and recruit players from wherever as that is against the stated aim of the club to source the team locally.

As for the 10 team league, well the 1st division is like that at present and I think every club will tell you they are sick of playing the same opposition 4 times a year, more if you get drawn in any of the cups.

[El-Pietro]

Cork City will have played Derry 6 times by the end of the season, and we could play Drogs a 7th time if we reach the setanta cup final.

Adding another league game to that is getting out of hand.

I like the idea of a 16 or 18 team league so you only play each other twice but I can't see it happening. Athlone, Kildare, Wexford et al would end up taking severe beatings in the league from the top teams and it would be detrimental to their crowds

[Battery Rover]

I like the idea of a 16 or 18 team league so you only play each other twice but I can't see it happening. Athlone, Kildare, Wexford et al would end up taking severe beatings in the league from the top teams and it would be detrimental to their crowds

In our case the crowds are as low as they will go due to being down to the hardcore already for the past couple of seasons.

A 18 team league would at least give us some away support and that would help the cash flow situation in the division. I have spent the guts of 15k advertising our games this season and no noticable increase.

I dread to think how bad this division would be crowd wise if Dundalk and Shels were promoted and no offence meant here but UCD and Cobh were relegated.