Game Off

**joeSoap** · 08/10/2008, 12:42 PM

1. Does a team have to be allowed to warm-up on the main pitch, if they request to do so? The answer to this is no. As long as an adequate area of the grounds is available, and applies to both clubs, then there is nothing in the rule book that says otherwise.

2. Is there a minimum time which a team must be allowed in order to complete their warm-up? Were Limerick given that time? The visiting side must arrive at the grounds a minimum of one hour before kick off, and be fully ready in their dressing room 5 minutes before kick-off for final referees inspection of boots and shin guards. Wrm-up times for most teams vary betweem 25-40 minutes.

**da bishop** · 08/10/2008, 1:55 PM

have to say agree with joe soap,but others will also follow gills lead now and hammer jackman pk and lets face it we have no defence here.MK made a very poor call,i have already said on the main thread he should have played under prematch protest and raised his objections afterwards both to the media and the fai.BTW if wallace is a clown i would not mind clowns like him owning l37.

**oldyouth** · 08/10/2008, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

2. Different teams have different warm ups so I'd say there's no set time. We weren't given enough time though, Wallace only accepted our request 35/40 mins before kick off, and at that stage our players weren't even togged out. Even if we shortened our warm up you'd have been looking at an 8.30/8.45 kick off, which would have inconvienced everyone concerned (including the fans that Wallace claims to care about so much), and might not have been sanctioned by the ref. That's where we fall down in my opinion.

Jebus, it is obvious that you are very passionate about your club and this issue, but come on. You are now suggesting 1 hour 25 minutes to kit out and warm up???
Some of our lads, who have travelled to Jackman Park for every game that we've played you there, say L37 do not come out until half an hour before the KO. I'm only asking, but is this true?

**jebus** · 08/10/2008, 4:37 PM

Originally Posted by oldyouth

Jebus, it is obvious that you are very passionate about your club and this issue, but come on. You are now suggesting 1 hour 25 minutes to kit out and warm up???
Some of our lads, who have travelled to Jackman Park for every game that we've played you there, say L37 do not come out until half an hour before the KO. I'm only asking, but is this true?

Nope, they go through a prematch warm up before going back out to run drills, which is what your fans would see

**oldyouth** · 08/10/2008, 6:00 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Nope, they go through a prematch warm up before going back out to run drills, which is what your fans would see

I think you are clutching at straws there. Not very much detail, is some of it done indoors out of sight of the opposition? I see you ignored reference my to the 1 hour 25 minutes you state would have been needed at 7.20 to get the game on. 60 minutes warm up and 25 minutes to tie the laces?

Jebus, I'm only messing with you. I'm on a week's sick leave from work and have nothing better to do. Lets agree neither club is in a good light over this and await the official outcome

**joeSoap** · 08/10/2008, 6:03 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Nope, they go through a prematch warm up before going back out to run drills, which is what your fans would see

Doesn't really matter to be honest. I've spoken to a couple of the players, and a full vigorous warm up takes no more than 45 minutes. To suggest that an hour and 25 is required is funny in the extreme. Kerley behaved like a childish jackass, and Wallace like a tyrannical bully with his comments. Both clubs are now a laughing stock as a result. And its going to cost both clubs money and they're probably going to get three points we probably would have got if we just played the bloody fixture.

**jebus** · 08/10/2008, 6:04 PM

Originally Posted by oldyouth

I think you are clutching at straws there. Not very much detail, is some of it done indoors out of sight of the opposition? I see you ignored reference my to the 1 hour 25 minutes you state would have been needed at 7.20 to get the game on. 60 minutes warm up and 25 minutes to tie the laces?

Jebus, I'm only messing with you. I'm on a week's sick leave from work and have nothing better to do. Lets agree neither club is in a good light over this and await the official outcome

7.20 + 15 mins getting togged out + 1hr warm up (as stated by LFC themselves) + 15 min tactics and team talk gives me 1 hour and 30 minutes, so you were wrong there

And I'm not on the coaching staff so you're correct in saying I don't know their full prematch routine

We've come out of it badly, thankfully Wallace is making us look better by the press statement

**oldyouth** · 08/10/2008, 7:44 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

7.20 + 15 mins getting togged out + 1hr warm up (as stated by LFC themselves) + 15 min tactics and team talk gives me 1 hour and 30 minutes

Stop it, I'll burst my stitches

**Splurge** · 08/10/2008, 7:57 PM

Originally Posted by jebus

Wexford will get a slap on the wrist for Wallace being a clown and hopefully the FAI will have the backbone to tell Wallace that opposition players have a right to use the main pitch for their prematch warm up

Appparently opposition players have no such right.

**see's it** · 08/10/2008, 8:54 PM

the clubs face each other saturday,it should be interesting!

**L37Ultra** · 08/10/2008, 9:14 PM

Originally Posted by Splurge

Appparently opposition players have no such right.

Your 20's team can warm up in the middle of People's Park on Saturday so

**L37Ultra** · 08/10/2008, 9:15 PM

Originally Posted by see's it

the clubs face each other saturday,it should be interesting!

This whole thing is just a well thought out publicity stunt from both clubs in other to get a good crowd at the U-20's game on Saturday. Well done to all involved

**sadloserkid** · 08/10/2008, 9:39 PM

Originally Posted by L37Ultra

This whole thing is just a well thought out publicity stunt from both clubs in other to get a good crowd at the U-20's game on Saturday. Well done to all involved

That's the kind of progressive thinking that will get this league moving.

It does amuse me that 48 hours on everybody but Mick Wallace has kinda gotten to the stage where they sorta smirk in a slightly embarrassed manner about the whole fiasco.

**GenerationXI** · 09/10/2008, 8:14 AM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

It does amuse me that 48 hours on everybody but Mick Wallace has kinda gotten to the stage where they sorta smirk in a slightly embarrassed manner about the whole fiasco.

There's no place for humour in the life of a long-hair or don't you know that?

**sadloserkid** · 09/10/2008, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by GenerationXI

There's no place for humour in the life of a long-hair or don't you know that?

Wallace has let down long hairs everywhere with his conduct.

**Lim till i die** · 10/10/2008, 12:43 AM

I was there.

Saw it all unfold at very close quarters (was being nosy).

Couldn't be bothered sifting through the tripe that 98.3% of this thread is doubtless made up of.

Suffice to say we were actually right on this farce

To give some of the heads on here an idea of the level of light we are talking about, think back pitch in Hogan Park.

**Lim till i die** · 10/10/2008, 12:44 AM

Originally Posted by sadloserkid

Wallace has let down long hairs everywhere with his conduct.

Imagine the thought of a self absorbed long hair

**dutchie** · 10/10/2008, 12:48 AM

It makes no difference what people think here about what happened or whats now going to happen.The whole episode will be sorted by the referees report and the fai delegate report.
Then if it comes out that Limerick were wrong to do what they did somone should answer,whether it be kerly or whoever,i would be very dissapointed if it was the managers fault that Limerick players and supporters wasted their evening trecking up and down to wexford when they should have been supporting or playing for their beloved.
Another side issue,without trying to stir some sh..e is their any truth to what wallace is saying that their is a bit of hassle in the Limerick camp.
And finally why were two of Limericks best players dropped for this game.

**Lim till i die** · 10/10/2008, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by dutchie

And finally why were two of Limericks best players dropped for this game.

Because Wexford are absolute fetid tripe

5th is in the bag so I'd imagine he's giving everyone a chance before new contract time roles around.

Plus Mike can be odd with his selections at the best of times.

Seriously suggesting that the fact we rested two players against one of the worst teams in LoI history somehow backs up the incoherent ramblings of the king of the bumpkins is nonsense

**LFC in Exile** · 10/10/2008, 7:52 AM

Originally Posted by joeSoap

I think that the club could do worse than have Mike Kerley make a statement of some description on the matter. His refusal to do so just adds more fuel to the fire.

No Joe, best thing is for Kerley and teh club to say nothing and let Wallace look like a flute in the papers with his buddy Gill. Saying nothing can't add fuel.

I don't think anyone is slagging off Wexford's facilities - the issue is whether there was sufficient light on the back pitch to do a proper session. I wouldn't have any issue with clubs warming up on a second pitch but it has to be fit for purpose i.e. have lights that are good enough for evening matches.