Tonights latest

[jebus]

Absolutely nothing got to do with the standard of the pitch. It was pitch dark and they were forced to warm up on a partly lighted pitch. Limerick do a lot of ball work and drills during warm up and i'm sure Mike Kerley didn't want any of his players getting injured.

But that would be acting professionally

[Splurge]

It was pitch dark and they were forced to warm up on a partly lighted pitch.

No it wasnt, there were/are allways have been (since we were founded) floodlights shining directly onto the pitch, not up to match quality but decent enough for us to train on all yr round, ditto for other clubs and ourselves to warm up on.

"Pitch dark"

[hoops1]

Well why didnt they go to the main pitch when Wallace backed down?
Only one team refused to play the fixture.

[L37Ultra]

But that would be acting professionally

Yes, which Limerick have been doing all year from what I have seen. I even seen them at trial game for the A team during the year and they warmed up for nearly an hour. I just can't imagine Mike Kerley getting his team to leave a match unless something serious had happened. I'm sure all will be reviled.

[L37Ultra]

No it wasnt, there were/are allways have been (since we were founded) floodlights shining directly onto the pitch, not up to match quality but decent enough for us to train on all yr round, ditto for other clubs and ourselves to warm up on.

"Pitch dark"

Ya it would have been fully dark by 7:20pm

I know its the sunny South East but come on...

[jebus]

Anyway I'm logging off so I'll give my 'Jebus' Final Thought' on the matter

Both clubs acted poorly tonight and both have cases to answer if I'm being honest. Wallace shouldn't act like such a clown in regards to the first pitch (either that or he should pay for match quality lights in the warm up pitch) and we shouldn't have stormed off so soon. Both of us will get a dressing down from the FAI no doubt. As for the points, give them to Wexford I guess, who cares at this stage, we're finishing 5th anyway.

[oldyouth]

I've never been to Ferrycarrig that's why I was asking earlier on what the standard of pitch is and what the lighting is like, and what I printed above is the answer I recieved a few pages back

There is a picture of our main pitch on the extratime homepage http://www.extratime.ie/ and you'll have to admit that you would protect it too if it was yours

On a related issue, the perfect condition of our main pitch has often worked against us. Teams with more experience than us come down and are able to play their football to a standard we are striving to attain. They seem to exceed their normal performances because of the surface. We have won more games away from Ferrycarrig Park this year then at home.

If Mick was in to mind games, perhaps we should present our opposition with a cow field of a pitch.

[Youths4Ever]

Anyway I'm logging off so I'll give my 'Jebus' Final Thought' on the matter

Both clubs acted poorly tonight and both have cases to answer if I'm being honest. Wallace shouldn't act like such a clown in regards to the first pitch (either that or he should pay for match quality lights in the warm up pitch) and we shouldn't have stormed off so soon. Both of us will get a dressing down from the FAI no doubt. As for the points, give them to Wexford I guess, who cares at this stage, we're finishing 5th anyway.

Agree both teams acted poorly errors made on both sides. It looks bad for the league.

If FAI decide Limerick should not have left and do not replay the fixture what sanctions could then face?

Also other way round if FAI decide Wexford in wrong what sanctions could Wexford face?

[Magicme]

I'm sure all will be reviled.

Id say that Wallace has already been by Limerick fans!

[Patrick Dunne]

A hefty fine for Wexford (E10K).

Three point deduction for Limerick.

Appalling stuff. Sub-junior.

[Youths4Ever]

A hefty fine for Wexford (E10K).

Three point deduction for Limerick.

Appalling stuff. Sub-junior.

on what grounds what rules back this up.

[Patrick Dunne]

EL teams warm-up on the main pitch, none of this guff about warming up on an unlit back pitch.

Wexford would not have gotten away with this rubbish against a Premier Division team, as Derry City have proven before the League Cup Final.
The likes of Kenny, Fenlon, Cook et al would have quite correctly insisted on using the main pitch.

Silly carry-on from Limerick as well. Kerley could have held up KO for 10-15 mins until his team were ready. If Limerick are not deducted points it sets a precedent for other mickey-mouse behaviour.

Like refusing to play at Finn Park because there are no showers !

[Réiteoir]

If the pitch in question is adequately lit (and I mean to some sort of official standard as opposed to Splurge's own) then Limerick do have a case to answer both to Wexford/FAI and our own fans who'd travelled. Conversely if the field is poorly lit then Limerick are 100% in the right IMO and Wexford Youths should be held culpable for failing to provide a suitable spot to warm up in. At that stage it's totally irrelevent if Waterford, Watford or Juventus gave them the thumbs up. Is there an official requirement

If the "Training Pitch" is used for U-21 and/or A-League games - then it has to meet the FAI's ground grading policy - and that includes having lights of a certain standard - which would be adequate.


As for the 7.55pm "call the game off" situation with the referee which was broached upon earlier in the thread - that's the Match Officials following standard procedure in this situation.

It has happened before - many years ago - as this video shows (watch out for the cameo appearance by Paul McKeon - and yes - that is Derek Tomney's father)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LfF4F4lfIA

For the record - and a presidence in this situation - the game was replayed and no points were deducted

[bellavistaman]

I'm with LImerick on this one - who does Wallace think he is? It a patch of grass, not the holy mmount or anything. And if that has always been the situation in Wexford, then shame on all other clubs who gave in to this crap

Agree 100%

Edit: Wallaces reasons are that he wants to protect the playing surface of the main pitch.

Not good enough, simple as.

Sounds like Wallace acting the b0llocks and getting his bluff called to be honest. Token fine for both teams and refix the game would seem the most judicious decision.

I agree, fairest outcome, but cant see this happening

quit with your mind games nonsense. all teams have warmed up on the other pitch for last 2 years.

With the weather and the season coming to an end maybe it was darker than usual, who knows magicme.

There is a picture of our main pitch on the extratime homepage http://www.extratime.ie/ and you'll have to admit that you would protect it too if it was yours

Stop the lights, most ridiculous comment of the night. Protect it after match by not training on it or letting other teams bar your senior team play on it, ecery LOI match the team should NOT be stopped warming up on. FAI going to have to clarify this before rematch. Just because your surface is better than others, people are not allowed to warm up on it, how you meant to get a feel for the pitch so on.

[da bishop]

Hey look who it is, the guy who should be restricted to the Juniorball forum with all the nonsense and lies he attempts to spread

touched a nerve have i jebus.as usual you seem to have a problem with people in limk who support both senior and junior football.painting me a liar is indeed stooping to an all time low.bottom line here is MK was unprofessional tonight,if he is as you say trying to improve things he should have risen above the percieved problem and played.

[bellavistaman]

If the "Training Pitch" is used for U-21 and/or A-League games - then it has to meet the FAI's ground grading policy - and that includes having lights of a certain standard - which would be adequate.


As for the 7.55pm "call the game off" situation with the referee which was broached upon earlier in the thread - that's the Match Officials following standard procedure in this situation.

It has happened before - many years ago - as this video shows (watch out for the cameo appearance by Paul McKeon - and yes - that is Derek Tomney's father)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LfF4F4lfIA

For the record - and a presidence in this situation - the game was replayed and no points were deducted

I knew when i hear farce Rams would be mentioned. Thanks Reiteoir

[Youths4Ever]

EL teams warm-up on the main pitch, none of this guff about warming up on an unlit back pitch.

Wexford would not have gotten away with this rubbish against a Premier Division team, as Derry City have proven before the League Cup Final.
The likes of Kenny, Fenlon, Cook et al would have quite correctly insisted on using the main pitch.

Silly carry-on from Limerick as well. Kerley could have held up KO for 10-15 mins until his team were ready. If Limerick are not deducted points it sets a precedent for other mickey-mouse behaviour.

Like refusing to play at Finn Park because there are no showers !

Derry where only allowed on the main pitch as FAI in charge for Cup Final Mick was not happy with this at time. St Pats warmed up on the "unlit back pitch" as you put it

What are the rules governing the issue about warming up and teams refusing to play?
What happens next?

[Youths4Ever]

If the "Training Pitch" is used for U-21 and/or A-League games - then it has to meet the FAI's ground grading policy - and that includes having lights of a certain standard - which would be adequate.

Can confirm that the training pitch is used for u-21 games

[L37Ultra]

.bottom line here is MK was unprofessional tonight,if he is as you say trying to improve things he should have risen above the percieved problem and played.

Agreed. Dissapointed with Limerick to be honest. But as I said we don't know the full story yet and they may well have had a good enough reason to act the way they did and not go ahead with the game. Still seems very unprofessional just when it looked like things were being done properly.

[L37Ultra]

Can confirm that the training pitch is used for u-21 games

At night?