Harps in dire financial trouble!!

**Rovers1** · 01/10/2008, 3:03 PM

who'll be next?

good luck to Harps....

**John83** · 01/10/2008, 3:03 PM

Oh dear. Juanace won't be happy to hear this.

**gufct** · 01/10/2008, 3:12 PM

There is going to be serious licencing problems for 80% of all el clubs at the end of this season and how the FAI will sort out the mess is anyones guess. Next Up will be Bohs as they face 2 huge court cases in the next month and if they lose both the ramifications for them could be shelsesque.

**finnpark** · 01/10/2008, 3:13 PM

Originally Posted by Mr A

If the players agreed to a pay cut why would there be a points deduction or punishment from licensing? It's the same as renegotiating a contract.

This is the first step back to part time. We're in bother, but hopefully we can pull out the stops and get back on an even keel again.

No doubt the club have made some very poor decisions this year- but hopefully for once lessons have been learned.

We need a youth system similar to what UCD have. Perhaps the club could forge links with LYIT and Magee to try to attract players from outside the region

**Longfordian** · 01/10/2008, 3:13 PM

It seems to be almost every second year Harps have to do this. Now I know most clubs including my own are guilty of being overly optimistic when deciding their budgets but there's only so many times you can go to the well that is the goodwill of the Donegal sporting public. Good luck with everything though.

**finnpark** · 01/10/2008, 3:14 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

There is going to be serious licencing problems for 80% of all el clubs at the end of this season and how the FAI will sort out the mess is anyones guess. Next Up will be Bohs as they face 2 huge court cases in the next month and if they lose both the ramifications for them could be shelsesque.

The players accepted their pay cutts so whats the problem.

**lofty9** · 01/10/2008, 3:16 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

The other clubs accepted the deal. He asked if the harps lads don't accept it.

Thank you.

Mr Finnpark, even without this latest setback occurring, I would be very surprised if Paul was your manager next year. Trying to negotiate things like free coach travel every week to keep the club afloat are bound to have an adverse affect on the stress levels of a very committed and already highly stressed man!

As for Derry over performing etc, so what?

**Mr A** · 01/10/2008, 3:19 PM

Good riddance to him.

**finnpark** · 01/10/2008, 3:23 PM

Originally Posted by lofty9

Thank you.

Mr Finnpark, even without this latest setback occurring, I would be very surprised if Paul was your manager next year. Trying to negotiate things like free coach travel every week to keep the club afloat are bound to have an adverse affect on the stress levels of a very committed and already highly stressed man!

As for Derry over performing etc, so what?

What other committments has he?

The good thing this year is the fitness levels of the team and their workrate and trying. The bad thing is the players that came in and also some poor tactics. If he keeps Harps up then he has done his job. Look at UCD and Galway who were establised, they are floundering

**holidaysong** · 01/10/2008, 3:24 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

There is going to be serious licencing problems for 80% of all el clubs at the end of this season and how the FAI will sort out the mess is anyones guess. Next Up will be Bohs as they face 2 huge court cases in the next month and if they lose both the ramifications for them could be shelsesque.

80% of clubs? Are you serious? The only club in the first division in any trouble are Kildare who could just go amateur anyway. In the premier division, even if Cork, Cobh, Sligo and Bohs don't get licences that's still only 4 out of 22 clubs.

I can't see anyone but Cork not getting a licence and even then I don't think they'll have any problems once their new owners come in..

**gufct** · 01/10/2008, 3:31 PM

Holiday song when did u get back from never never land.

**redobit** · 01/10/2008, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

Why didn't you try to get players to take a wage cut though? If the club was in debt would it not make sense to try and save as much money as possible by cutting wages?

IMO the club is trying to honour the committments it gave to its players at the start of the season. Hopefully this will stand to us next year, if a player knows they will be payed in full every week, as agreed, then we might have a chance of keeping some of our current players for next season. Why go somewhere where u could have a pay cut.

**jinxy lilywhite** · 01/10/2008, 3:31 PM

This is an absolute disgrace. No wonder UCD fans are p*ssed off. Their top flight status is in jepordy and they are doing things right off the pitch where Harps have obviously overspent and cant hide the money problems anymore. All these financial problems and asking players to take a pay cut is making a mockery of the whole situation. Every one of these clubs should be brought bang to rights and relegated. Seriously this has gotten way out of hand. You can't commit to signing a player on a contact for X amount and then turn around and say we can only pay Y.
No effin wonder the media laugh at the league.

**pineapple stu** · 01/10/2008, 3:35 PM

I think Sheridan's sig sums my thoughts up no this whole affair nicely. Thanks for preserving it, Sheridan.

**rebus2008** · 01/10/2008, 3:41 PM

Lads,
Just curious, whats would the likes of the full time players at Harps be getting?

I remember reading a year or two ago when Rovers were in lower division, they had a weekly wage bill of around 25k. Hardly correct is?

What is norm for various clubs throughout the league?

What are high/lows for various clubs?

**holidaysong** · 01/10/2008, 3:41 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

Holiday song when did u get back from never never land.

Where's that? Monaghan?

Originally Posted by redobit

IMO the club is trying to honour the committments it gave to its players at the start of the season. Hopefully this will stand to us next year, if a player knows they will be payed in full every week, as agreed, then we might have a chance of keeping some of our current players for next season. Why go somewhere where u could have a pay cut.

I can understand trying to honour the contracts of the players and I wasn't suggesting that the club should force a pay cut on all the players but surely some renegotion of terms with the higher earners could have been possible? Less wages per week but over an extended term perhaps? Do Sligo have a lot of players coming to the end of their contract at the moment, and if so will they have problems resigning them for next season?

**micls** · 01/10/2008, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

80% of clubs? Are you serious? The only club in the first division in any trouble are Kildare who could just go amateur anyway. In the premier division, even if Cork, Cobh, Sligo and Bohs don't get licences that's still only 4 out of 22 clubs.

Drogs? Galway? Harps?

7 out of 12 in the premier in serious trouble this season. Dunno about the first but thats a crazy amount