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    Question Defunct League of Ireland Clubs

    Just wondering if there is a list of defunct League of Ireland clubs out there. It would be good to put together their clubs profiles here.
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    Well I always get scolded for overuse of wikipedia but we could use these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...football_clubs

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    Not exactly a complete list. For one thing, Bray Unknowns were amalgamated into Bray Wanderers in the 70's. AFAIK, the history of both clubs is combined (although Bray Unknowns achievements are clearly labelled as Bray Unknows achievements).

    Going by that basis, would the previous Waterford and Galway teams not be defunct as the new clubs have taken on their history?

    Also, there's a few teams in this thread that aren't listed there.
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    For any such question the first port of call should be RSSSF!

    http://www.rsssf.com/tablesi/ierall.html

    I think this list is fairly definitive. Exactly how well connected all the Cork clubs are is open to debate (i.e. Are Cork Athletic the same club as Cork United?), likewise the whole Drumcondra-Home Farm/Everton/Fingal/Dub City thing.

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    I remember when the First Division started up two clubs had been accepted into membership but dropped out before the season started so I doubt if you'll find any mention of these clubs anywhere. One of them was the grandly titled Sporting Club Thurles (I kid you not!) and for the life of me I cant remember the other clubs name.

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    Thurles Town played in the league. Hadn't heard about Sporting Club Thurles

    Oh and Frank, are you sure about Bray Unknowns? Thought they were completely seperate. Waterford is seperate (they say otherwise). Galway was strictlya change of name
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Thurles Town played in the league. Hadn't heard about Sporting Club Thurles

    Oh and Frank, are you sure about Bray Unknowns? Thought they were completely seperate. Waterford is seperate (they say otherwise). Galway was strictlya change of name

    I thought Bray Unknowns were a different club. Fordsons (the first cork club) turned into the original cork city. Youre right about Waterford and Galway.

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    What's the exact story with Waterford old and new? Did they go bust and start again or something? Pretty sure there wasn't a gap in league membership.

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    Thats it in a nutshell really. I'm sure one or two of them will be along soon to give you the Waterford version. There was a nice piece about it in one of the old "Irish Football handbook" editions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Oh and Frank, are you sure about Bray Unknowns? Thought they were completely seperate.
    Bray Unknowns were the town's league club in the 20's & 30's. They reverted to junior football after that, sometime in the 40's, AFAIK.

    Bray Wanderers were founded in the 40's (1946, iirc) as a separate junior club. Unknowns were amalgamated into Wanderers in the mid 70's.
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    So the list looks something like:

    Brideville
    I 1925-33, 1935-43, 44-46 (18)

    Brooklyn
    I 1923-25 (2)

    Cork Athletic
    I 1948-57 (9)

    Cork Bohemians
    I 1932-34 (2)

    Cork Celtic [1]
    I 1951-79 (28)

    Cork Hibernians
    I 1957-77 (20)

    Cork United (1) [2]
    I 1924-48 (24)

    Cork United (2) [3]
    I 1976-82 (6)

    Dolphin
    I 1930-37 (7)

    Dublin City
    I 2004 (1)
    II 2001-2003*, 2005 (4)
    * Promoted at the end of the 2003 season, played 02-3 and 2003 seasons in
    the First Division

    Dublin United
    I 1921-23 (2)

    Frankfort
    I 1921-22 (1)

    Home Farm
    I 1972-87, 1996-97 (16)
    II 1987-96, 1997-2001 (13)

    Jacobs
    I 1921-32 (11)

    Kilkenny City [5]
    I 1997-98, 2000-01 (2)
    II 1985-97, 1998-2000, 2001-05 (19)

    Midland Athletic
    I 1922-24 (2)

    Newcastlewest [7]
    II 1985-1990 (5)

    Olympia
    I 1921-23 (2)

    Pioneers
    I 1922-26 (4)

    Rathmines
    I 1922-23 (1)

    Reds United
    I 1935-36 (1)

    St Francis
    II 1996-2001 (5)

    St James’s Gate
    I 1921-44 (23)
    II 1990-96 (6)

    Shelbourne United
    I 1922-24 (2)

    Thurles Town
    I 1977-82 (5)

    Transport
    I 1948-62 (14)

    YMCA
    I 1921-22 (1)

    Fascinating stuff- far more clubs there than I imagined and lots that I was not previously aware of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heliodorus View Post
    I remember when the First Division started up two clubs had been accepted into membership but dropped out before the season started so I doubt if you'll find any mention of these clubs anywhere. One of them was the grandly titled Sporting Club Thurles (I kid you not!) and for the life of me I cant remember the other clubs name.
    The other was Cork Hibernians (not sure if it was a new club or the old one revamped.) I have a fixture list for Harps from that season with both of them on it. A week later a new one was issued with all the fixtures changed as they had dropped out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    So the list looks something like:

    Brideville
    I 1925-33, 1935-43, 44-46 (18)

    Brooklyn
    I 1923-25 (2)

    Cork Athletic
    I 1948-57 (9)

    Cork Bohemians
    I 1932-34 (2)

    Cork Celtic [1]
    I 1951-79 (28)

    Cork Hibernians
    I 1957-77 (20)

    Cork United (1) [2]
    I 1924-48 (24)

    Cork United (2) [3]
    I 1976-82 (6)

    Dolphin
    I 1930-37 (7)

    Dublin City
    I 2004 (1)
    II 2001-2003*, 2005 (4)
    * Promoted at the end of the 2003 season, played 02-3 and 2003 seasons in
    the First Division

    Dublin United
    I 1921-23 (2)

    Frankfort
    I 1921-22 (1)

    Home Farm
    I 1972-87, 1996-97 (16)
    II 1987-96, 1997-2001 (13)

    Jacobs
    I 1921-32 (11)

    Kilkenny City [5]
    I 1997-98, 2000-01 (2)
    II 1985-97, 1998-2000, 2001-05 (19)

    Midland Athletic
    I 1922-24 (2)

    Newcastlewest [7]
    II 1985-1990 (5)

    Olympia
    I 1921-23 (2)

    Pioneers
    I 1922-26 (4)

    Rathmines
    I 1922-23 (1)

    Reds United
    I 1935-36 (1)

    St Francis
    II 1996-2001 (5)

    St James’s Gate
    I 1921-44 (23)
    II 1990-96 (6)

    Shelbourne United
    I 1922-24 (2)

    Thurles Town
    I 1977-82 (5)

    Transport
    I 1948-62 (14)

    YMCA
    I 1921-22 (1)

    Fascinating stuff- far more clubs there than I imagined and lots that I was not previously aware of.
    Plus you havent included some of the name changes. Im sure Reds United are related to Shelbourne. Evergreen arent included. Newcastle Utd became Newcastlewest - there are more.

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    1922 - Frankfort FC & YMCA FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1922/23 season.

    1923 - Rathmines Athletic FC resigned from the League. Dublin United FC & Olympia FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1923/24 season.

    1924 - Midland Athletic were not re-elected to the League for the 1924/25 season.

    1925 - Shelbourne FC withdrew from the League the day it started. Brooklyn FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1925/26 season

    1926 - Dublin Pioneers were not re-elected to the League for the 1926/27 season

    1928 - Athlone Town FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1927/28 season

    1930 - Fordsons FC changed name to Cork FC

    1932 - Brideville FC & Jacobs AFC were not re-elected to the League for the 1932/33 season. Waterford AFC resigned from the League

    1934 - Shelbourne FC & Cork Bohemians FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1934/35 season

    1936 - Reds United FC resigned from the League and disbanded

    1937 - Dolphin FC resigned from the League

    1938 - Cork FC changed name to Cork City FC

    1940 - Cork City FC dissolved during season & Cork United FC formed immediately and took its results. Sligo Rovers FC resigned from the League

    1941 - Waterford AFC resigned from the League

    1943 - Bray Unknowns FC & Brideville FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1943/44 season

    1944 - St James' Gate AFC were not re-elected to the League for the 1944/45 season

    1945 - Brideville FC were not re-elected to the League for the 1945/46 season

    1948 - Cork United FC resigned from the League and disbanded at the start of the 1948/49 season and were replaced by Cork Athletic FC.

    1951 - Transport FC moved to Dublin from Bray.

    1957 - Cork Athletic FC resigned from the League and disbanded

    1959 - Evergreen FC changed name to Cork Celtic FC

    1972 - Drumcondra AFC merged into Home Farm FC and changed name to Home Farm-Drumcondra AFC

    1974 - Home Farm-Drumcondra AFC changed name to Home Farm FC

    1975 - Drogheda FC changed name to Drogheda United FC

    1976 - Cork Hibernians FC resigned from the League and disbanded

    1977 - Albert Rovers FC changed name to Cork Albert FC. Few months later, changed name to Cork Alberts FC

    1979 - Cork Celtic FC resigned from the League and disbanded. Cork Alberts FC changed name to Cork United FC. Limerick AFC changed name to Limerick United FC

    1982 - Waterford AFC changed name to Waterford United FC. Cork United FC were expelled from League and dissolved. Thurles Town FC resigned from the League

    1983 - Members of Limerick United FC broke away and formed a new team, Limerick City FC. The issue went to court and decided that Limerick City FC were to be elected and Limerick United FC wound up and dissolved

    1986 - Newcastle United FC changed name to Newcastlewest FC

    1989 - EMFA FC changed name to Kilkenny City AFC

    1990 - Newcastlewest FC resigned from the League

    1992 - Limerick City FC changed name to Limerick FC

    1996 - Home Farm FC changed name to Home Farm-Everton FC

    1997 - St James' Gate AFC were expelled from the League

    1999 - Home Farm-Everton FC changed name to Home Farm-Fingal FC

    2000 - St Francis FC changed name to Fingal-St Francis FC

    2001 - Home Farm-Fingal FC changed name to Dublin City FC (Not Sure)

    2002 - Fingal-St Francis FC resigned from the League

    2006 - Limerick FC were not re-elected to the League for the 2007 season

    2007 - Kilkenny City AFC resigned from the League
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    I'm guessing that clubs still active at some level (like LSL or MSL) don't count as being defunct? Home Farm, St James' Gate and Kilkenny are all still active.
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    I think about 1/4 of them still play in Intermediate and Junior Leagues.

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    So where are Frankfort from? And Brideville and Brooklyn for that matter?
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    Brideville played in Richmond Park initially before moving to harolds cross when they were evicted for Pats to move in. They were based in the Liberties initially
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