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    Quote Originally Posted by Straightstory View Post
    I think Delaney does work hard, but his priority should be to do something to the save the league, which is dying a slow death


    The FAI have put in fairly strong criteria for clubs to be a memebr of the league. They include having decent stadiums, decent schoolboy set ups and to be solvent.

    If the clubs lie and **** themselves up, what can the FAi do except remove those clubs (and be slated for it in all probablilty)

    The FAI have tried to professionalise the league recently but too many club aren't willing to move up. They've tried to put in financial safeguards but too many clubs are willing to try and get round them

    I still don't think the FAI does enough for the league but the majority of the problems within the league are the fault of club directors.
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    While I agree with you that clubs are ultimately responsible for the mess they're in, there's lots of clubs insolvent according to their most recent accounts, and the FAI have done nothing about it (as far as I can see anyway). Clubs are supposed to capitalise directors' loans, and this hasn't been done. They've not found cunning ways around it; they've just ignored the FAI. I'd blame the FAI for not enforcing their rules, which sound great on paper or in posts like that.

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    But its the damned if you do... factor. If Cork are thrown out, it will reflect badly on the FAI adn the league. The fact that its the right and proper thing to do doesn't really help. And again, the fact they overspent (etc etc) isn't their fault...

    The main problem I have with the FAI is their complete lack of pro-active PR.
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    Agree. Just saying there's no point saying the FAI have set up financial safeguards when they ignore them themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Agree. Just saying there's no point saying the FAI have set up financial safeguards when they ignore them themselves.
    They haven't really though. Some clubs were warned they were getting close to 65% and transfer embargo put on them. The directors loan thing was always going to be fudged as the FAI can't be seeking direct investment and then only include lump sum payments up front
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Some clubs were warned they were getting close to 65% and transfer embargo put on them.
    Were they warned or were they severaly warned? You'll forgive my scepticism over that phrase!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Were they warned or were they severaly warned? You'll forgive my scepticism over that phrase!
    It's always hard to tell, but there's certainly a structure there to keep an eye on it - regular reports to an accountant and a committee to dole out punishments (and I've heard a few people mention these, so they are actually happening, I think). If there have actually been transfer embargoes put in place, then it's progress and commendable.

    As a measure though, it's undermined by the licensing body's seeming indifference to insolvent clubs operating at a loss.
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    There was definitely a transfer embargo placed on Galway.
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    And Sligo if I recall correctly?
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    Fair enough so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A face View Post
    Singled him out even though 'them' refers to more than one, plural if you like. Oh dear !!
    Oh dear is right.
    Though in fairness, despite acting otherwise, I suspect you do actually know that 'them' can, and regularly does, refer to one person also.

    But here, just for you:
    "Them is the English third person accusative (i.e., used after a preposition or as the object of a verb) plural personal pronoun. They is the nominative form (i.e., subject of a phrase). Them is sometimes also used in the singular as the accusative form of the singular they. (See also: English personal pronouns)."

    If you say you were talking about more than one person (even though BohDiddley plainly referred to just one) than that's fine. It's not what you wrote though, that's the point. And the reputation of your low opinion of this individual sort of precedes you.
    I think we're gone a tad OT on this one now though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stann View Post
    Nothing to do with the FAI, sorry. And to be honest, since you consistently ignore what I post just so you can get digs in, this is the last you'll hear of it from me. And me from you.



    I didn't say it wasn't, why would I? I said there's a lot more to Irish football than the eL. Again you highlighted it and again got it wrong. And I don't mean the international teams as you assumed, I mean the junior leagues, schoolboy and women's clubs, the whole shooting match that the FAI govern.




    I think it will work in time, it may be painful, perhaps fatal to some clubs, but it will eventually work. You don't. Fair enough. Things couldn't have went on as they were going. At least it's something they tried. See below.



    Again, never said that either, I mentioned the new U-20 league, which as far as I'm aware IS new this season. Maybe you know better.




    Don't necessarily disagree with either of those, never have.
    But what I said from the start, that you insist on missing is that Delaney has done better by the league than most of his predecessors, has tried out a few new things, or at least overseen the trying out of them, and seems to want to slowly sort things out. Whether it's enough, or quick enough, is not the point as it's not what I said.
    point is - is the LOi well promoted, is it a viable league, do enough people know or care about it --------- and isnt it Delaneys job to care about all this...........
    I dont think he does, he is a moron, and politican, and just another smarmy celtic tiger creation

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    Quote Originally Posted by stann View Post
    But here, just for you
    Ahh sure that Wikipedia .... c'mon ...... i mean everybody knows you cant trust Wikipedia ..... its not worth the paper its written on like

    Quote Originally Posted by stann View Post
    And the reputation of your low opinion of this individual sort of precedes you.
    I'm shocked and stunned ..... i'm grappling with this injustice and slur on my character, i mean i think the guy is a sound bloke

    But get back to it ...... i'd apply it to all beyond the green door, the purveyors and administrators of our game. Its a huge contradiction imo and something that should not be let away lightly. If its a witch hunt by a wild rabid mob to dole out some justice then i'd be all for it
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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