I've been to Wigan, decent enough nightlife. Maybe this isn't such a no-brainer after all.
You love your aquariums Tets!
I've been to Atlanta, the city centre is rough, you'd want to watch yourself around there.
There's some nice places to visit - Martin Luther King centre (he's from Atlanta), the olympic site, cnn tower, aquarium, coca-cola museum (seriously - https://www.worldofcoca-cola.com/ )
I've been to Wigan, decent enough nightlife. Maybe this isn't such a no-brainer after all.
You love your aquariums Tets!
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Moving * Rapidly Through Atlanta.
THey wouldn't let us into the Aquarium in CHicago for some reason, I remember the lady on the desk was real rude and ignorant and I ended up getting ratty. She really loved her job. Still an aquarium in Chicago can't have been offering much.
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I was in Atlanta 10 years ago for a conference and one of the biggest attractions was the worlds largest free standing escalator in the CNN building! Rock and Roll stuff! Also a revolving restaurant on the 75th floor of a hotel....a very queasy experience!
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Exactly. Wigan has a Chinese restaurant which Dave Whelan described in, shall we say, archaic terms.
I know but that kind of thing doesn't bother me so much. If anything, that makes their plight all the more difficult when they don't really generate much support because of the more popular rugby league team, even allowing for their sugar daddy (a fairly tame sugar daddy by some PL standards). That said, half empty football grounds don't look good, so in that sense they're probably not a big loss from the top flight anyway.
The day Wigan were relegated from the Premiership (at Arsenal IIRC) their fans were still hopping up and down like seals on acid when any of them realised that they'd been picked up by the Sky cameras (all but one guy whose life had clearly just ended who my heart broke a little bit for). If the fans of Wigan were happy to get relegated I was happy to see them go. It's fair to say that they haven't been missed.
I've only had a stopover in the airport in Atlanta. I have been in Blackburn. The airport was marginally more fun, a whole lot prettier and far easier to get around.
The ball is round and has many surprises.
They had just won the F.A. Cup to be fair to them.
I am trying to think of name players from any other European country who go to the MLS at such an age and I'm struggling.
Even the players the next rung down from from Gerrard and Lampard like Benoit Cheyrou tend to be 34 or 35 when they go over.
It's a nice move for the family but I don't think it's a great career move in the strictest sense of the word.
I get the impression a lot of Irish players in Britain wouldn't/don't consider a move to foreign speaking countries in Europe because they're too comfortable or whipped.
That's probably why Jack Byrne was able to move to Cambuur, because he got his independence early, is young and doesn't/didn't have a partner when he went over.
I think it's pretty disappointing TBH.
And come on - the Championship is miles ahead of the MLS. Whatever the merits about living in and raising a family in America.
Giovinco went to MLS at 27. It's not hugely common but realistically for guys whose international aspirations are likely in the past like Doyle, St Ledger and McCann it can be a very attractive option.
I'd say jack Byrne went where he was told. He could just as easily have been told to go to New York.
I think your general impression about Irish footballers is probably correct but I'd love to know how you quantify the quality of a career move.
I'd like to see more Irish play in Europe but I'm not that fussed really and I think in general, and very definitely in this particular case, thou doth protest too much.
I stopped off in Wigan once to get a train connection from Manchester to Blackpool where some team in blue and white stripes were playing (for the record 0-0). The High Street isn't bad and even the wife was impressed and based on a 30 minute visit it didn't seem to be the worst place in the world - probably less likely to be shot than in Atlanta but then you have the American Football there (Braves?) but whether this counter-balances a potential gun shot wound, I am not sure.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
According to this list of foreign players in MLS - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...gn_MLS_players - England, France, Spain, Scotland, Italy, Netherlands, and Serbia all have had more players than Ireland. Germany, Poland and Sweden have had equal numbers to Ireland.
Find out what the average age was when they went over and you'll have your answer
Beckham was 31, so was Keane.
You might want to revisit this when you have a family
I agree, it was a shame his dad died young.
see above about when you have a family
Seems this thread is tripadvisor.com for people with a penchant for aquariums. What fish are on display at Bray as I personally would love to go there.
David Beckham is a bad example in fairness. He had almost completed his transition from footballer to celebrity at that stage, the move to LA was in keeping with that. And even so, he returned to Europe with a loan spell every year.
And I am not going to make any firm judgments but I would just genuinely like to know why footballers from all around Europe can move all around Europe all through their careers but Irish footballers seem reluctant to move anywhere other than the UK, Australia or America.
I am positive Scandinavian, French, German, Dutch, Eastern European and South American footballers have families too but it doesn't seem to impede them.
I find it ironic because you can't throw a stone anywhere in this world without finding an Irish person, yet footballers (Sheridan apart) seem to be restricted to English speaking countries.
If I was a footballer I would love to experience different cultures, learn new languages and play football in a different country.
They usually retire between the ages of 35-40. There is plenty of time and plenty of opportunities to set up a family base and make money coaching soccer in America afterwards, surely!
For the most part, clubs in Europe aren't interested in Irish players. Obviously there are cases where players have turned down offers too, but it's not like they're flying in.
I wonder where he'll get loaned to until next March when the MLS season starts. Would love to see him go back to Burnley.
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