Government's skewed priorities to the fore again...

**irishultra** · 16/09/2008, 5:16 PM

Lmao.

**TonyD** · 16/09/2008, 6:32 PM

Originally Posted by irishultra

seriously sometimes i hate league of ireland fans.

We hate you right back

**Nesta99** · 17/09/2008, 1:45 AM

.....

**Nesta99** · 17/09/2008, 2:05 AM

"Fuelled U boats by nigh"

Bwaahahahahahahahhahaha!!!! Evil we all are! as i said pleasure has been taken from insult been had..erm erm f##k the pope too by the way he's a nasty chap so he is!...ah i know that aint scots .... boring really nowt at all to do with honest football folk!

**galwayhoop** · 17/09/2008, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by RonnieB

It happened many many years ago get over it. The same with the holocaust, whats done is done time for people to move on.

true those things happened a while ago but they should not be glorified in song by others and neither should be forgotton either.

the complaint was made to the irish embassy in london and followed up by the consul general in edinburgh at one of many meetings with the scotish gov.

2g and 3g emigrants in scotland are mainly there as a result of the 'famine' and subsequent economic and social conditions following on from it - it has a direct resonance with a lot of 3g irish in britain and beyond.

it would be like irish people singing a song with "the famine is over why don't you go home" to a group of 2g or 3g africians at a football match here, hardly politically correct and totally racist - i would only expect that some sort of africian group (along with the pc brigade) would be up in arms.

**Salmon Coloured** · 17/09/2008, 10:31 AM

This thread needs to be closed.

**galwayhoop** · 17/09/2008, 10:59 AM

.......or at least moved from eircom league to current affairs or somewhere else

**gspain** · 17/09/2008, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by galwayhoop

true those things happened a while ago but they should not be glorified in song by others and neither should be forgotton either.

the complaint was made to the irish embassy in london and followed up by the consul general in edinburgh at one of many meetings with the scotish gov.

2g and 3g emigrants in scotland are mainly there as a result of the 'famine' and subsequent economic and social conditions following on from it - it has a direct resonance with a lot of 3g irish in britain and beyond.

it would be like irish people singing a song with "the famine is over why don't you go home" to a group of 2g or 3g africians at a football match here, hardly politically correct and totally racist - i would only expect that some sort of africian group (along with the pc brigade) would be up in arms.

I think the point is not whether the song is right or wrong but whether our government should get involved.

I don't think the song is appropriate. However it is a lot tamer than some of the stuff sung by Rangers fans dlorifying the UDA or UVF who slaughtered hundreds of innocent people in living memory as opposed to people who died over 160 years ago. Of course the Celtic fans won't complain about the UVF songs because then they can't sing their IRA songs who also sluaghtered hundreds of innocent people in living memory.

**galwayhoop** · 17/09/2008, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by gspain

I think the point is not whether the song is right or wrong but whether our government should get involved.

our government didn't get involved... read the original link:
"The Irish consul general in Edinburgh raised the issue at her regular meeting with the Scottish Government."

**John83** · 17/09/2008, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by galwayhoop

our government didn't get involved... read the original link:
"The Irish consul general in Edinburgh raised the issue at her regular meeting with the Scottish Government."

Reading the article is cheating.

**Mayo_Bhoy** · 17/09/2008, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by gspain

I think the point is not whether the song is right or wrong but whether our government should get involved.

I don't think the song is appropriate. However it is a lot tamer than some of the stuff sung by Rangers fans dlorifying the UDA or UVF who slaughtered hundreds of innocent people in living memory as opposed to people who died over 160 years ago. Of course the Celtic fans won't complain about the UVF songs because then they can't sing their IRA songs who also sluaghtered hundreds of innocent people in living memory.

Which IRA songs are sung?? Seriuosly i'd like to know but cos i never hear any at CP??? Then again i suspect you wont't name any.

**Rovers1** · 17/09/2008, 2:44 PM

whats a "bhoy"??

**jinxy lilywhite** · 17/09/2008, 2:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers1

whats a "bhoy"??

Its a ball type thing that be's in a bay to warn of low depth water

**Mayo_Bhoy** · 17/09/2008, 3:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rovers1

whats a "bhoy"??

Very witty there Rovers. Is that the best you can do?? Tut Tut

**gspain** · 17/09/2008, 5:38 PM

Originally Posted by Mayo_Bhoy

Which IRA songs are sung?? Seriuosly i'd like to know but cos i never hear any at CP??? Then again i suspect you wont't name any.

oh ah up the RA

The Boys of the old Brigade.

They aren't sung at CP anymore only at away games because both OF clubs have clamped down on signing at home games but not away games which are virtually season ticket holder only events.

See hundreds of Rangers fans dressed up in Celtic gear singing sectarian songs here to discredit the great club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOwqWQS8oRY

**Straightstory** · 17/09/2008, 6:49 PM

The holocaust was genocide. The famine resulted in death, starvation and misery for Ireland, but it was neither ethnic cleansing nor genocide. People should at least get their facts right.
On topic - the Irish government complaining about this is ridiculous.

**Bohemian1890** · 17/09/2008, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Straightstory

The holocaust was genocide. The famine resulted in death, starvation and misery for Ireland, but it was neither ethnic cleansing nor genocide. People should at least get their facts right.
On topic - the Irish government complaining about this is ridiculous.

Food was still being exported during the famine when the people should have been getting it.They starved them to death just as good as killing them.

**Sheridan** · 17/09/2008, 10:47 PM

The famine happened because the government of the day refused to intervene in the operation of the free market to assist the vulnerable. Basically the same philosophy the PDs and Fianna F�il have espoused for the past decade. People are still dying on trolleys and in alleyways due to this doctrine. So what do we think of the famine? We voted for it.

**A face** · 17/09/2008, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

So what do we think of the famine? We voted for it.

Ah no we didn't .... ye did ..... i have to suffer it

**BohsPartisan** · 17/09/2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Don't equate the Irish famine and the Sunderland farce and then tell me to get off the stage.
It would be fatuous to suggest that the famine and the holocaust were totally analogous, and I didn't, but there are analogous elements. In this case it is the celebration by a bunch of sickos in Scotland of mass starvation as government policy in the 19th century, and rejoicing in the mass extermination of Jews and others in the 20th.
Doing that as as part of some comically dated sectarian ritual doesn't turn it into an irrelevant jape. I certainly agree with you on the idiocy of Celtic and Rangers fans both, but that doesn't give them carte blanche.

Is the chant
"The Famines over, why don't you go home"?

If thats the one its hardly that offensive and would be seen as a reply to all the plastic paddy chants from the Celtic lot, analogous to, if you love Ireland so much, why don't you live there.