If i am allowed...

**RedX** · 28/09/2003, 3:57 PM

...anyone watch the All-Ireland Football final?Are Tyrone the first GAA Football side that you see diving around the ground after being tackled?They have brought shame to our national game today.I thought football was about being men?Shame on them...still time left..come on Armagh..

**ccfc till i die** · 28/09/2003, 4:59 PM

I predicted Tyrone from the semi finals, ****ed off that I didn't put any money on 'em.

**joe** · 28/09/2003, 5:19 PM

you're allowed, but only in off topic

**Maz** · 28/09/2003, 6:09 PM

Tyrone were a disgrace today! They seriously cheated their way to the All-Ireland title today! All the frees that were converted due to their dives....disgraceful

**NigeSausagepump** · 28/09/2003, 6:21 PM

It's very sad to see feigning injury creeping into Gaelic Football. By far the two worst exponents of it are Tyrone & Armagh, so it was no great surprise to see them at it again and again this afternoon.
At the risk of incurring the wrath of the northern part of the island, it seems to me that the worst culprits are the Ulster teams and the 26 southern counties haven't really started using it as a "tactic" yet. That said, if the two most successful teams in the country are using it, it must be at least partially effective - a worrying trend.

Cue GAA-hating wag claiming how great it is to see Gaelic Football becoming more like soccer.........

**patsh** · 28/09/2003, 8:17 PM

Originally posted by RedX
...They have brought shame to our national game today...

The final of the National game was played two weeks ago...

**pete** · 29/09/2003, 9:14 AM

I may not be much of a GAA fan but at least i can acknowledge the skill & uniqueness of Hurling. Gaelic football on the other hand is a crap sport - if you want to see guys dragging each other the ground rugby is a better option & if want skill witht he foot than soccer is better.

GAA refs are even worse than eL refs - ref yesterday chickened out of sending off the Tyrone captain when he already on a yellow card & dragged the Armagh player to the ground rugby style - 2 mins later Tyrone player who wasn't on a yellow did exactely the same thing & got booked for it.

If the GAA can get 79k people to watch muck like that yesterday then surely the eL has some sort of future.

**Bluebeard** · 29/09/2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by NigeSausagepump
it seems to me that the worst culprits are the Ulster teams and the 26 southern counties haven't really started using it as a "tactic" yet.

I'm still trying, and I can't get any more than 25 Southern Gaelic Football playing counties not using the tactic.

Unless you are naively including Kilkenny - they haven't had a county football team since the eighties

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**tiktok** · 29/09/2003, 1:19 PM

i like watching Hurling, but i won't even bring myself to watch Gaelic football anymore...
Maz is only partly right, they dragged and dove their way to the final and then the title.

**Macy** · 30/09/2003, 8:42 AM

Originally posted by Conor74
As to whether they are the first team, I seem to remember Meath kicking, punching, spitting and fouling their way to an All Ireland or two...

Shhhhhh, you'll expose the "it's the northen counties" myth thats doing the rounds at the moment...
If you're including diving, from the limited amount of the bogball I watch, Galway are as bad as anyone.....

**Bluebeard** · 30/09/2003, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by Macy
Shhhhhh, you'll expose the "it's the northen counties" myth thats doing the rounds at the moment...
If you're including diving, from the limited amount of the bogball I watch, Galway are as bad as anyone.....

But it is the Northern Counties! Look carefully at that Galway team, you'll find that most of the biggest culprits have either been to the North or played against Northern teams - it has to be coming from somewhere

In fairness, Connaught was always one of the more physical province when it came to Bogball, moreso than Leinster and Munster - dishonourable mentions for Cork - Kerry matches of the Billy Morgan era, and virtually any game involving Meath - dodgy GAA team, but great street fighting club

**patsh** · 30/09/2003, 2:12 PM

I have to say that until someone in the GAA draws up and implements some rules for Gaelic Football, it will be an unwatchable, slightly better than egg chasing, dud of a "sport".
Someone may be able to answer this.
In Gf games you often see a player, who has the ball, surrounded and harried by as much as 3 or 4 opposing players. The player in possession must release the ball, thus losing it to the opposition, or else commit a foul. How come the 4 players around him, usually digging and jostling him, are deemed not to be commiting a foul?

**pete** · 30/09/2003, 2:47 PM

Originally posted by patsh
How come the 4 players around him, usually digging and jostling him, are deemed not to be commiting a foul?

Cos they allowed to thump 'n dig him?

I cannot understand why they don't just start waving yellow cards for dragging & thumping. Just like in soccer should be pretty much automatic yellow if not at least making an attempt to get the ball. Funniest thing is when player "professionally" fouled outside the large box to prevent goal attempt & they suualy not even get a card.

**NigeSausagepump** · 02/10/2003, 12:40 PM

I can't deny that teams such as Meath, Dublin (83 & 95) and Cork (89/90) haven't been averse to kicking, spitting and fouling their way to Sam, but I must say that in around 20 years of watching GAA, I've never seen the play-acting which Tyrone undertook against Kerry & Armagh and Armagh undertook against Dublin. The rest of it I can just about stomach, but seeing something like Brian Dooher's impression of a dying cowboy in a spaghetti western in the All Ireland final last week was just appalling to watch.