Glenn Whelan

[DeLorean]

I think Whelan will possibly be in there with a bunch of Trap's favorites that might never play for us again now that he's gone-Cox, Keogh, O'Dea, McShane, Green, Sammon even Walters

Very harsh on Walters and to be honest I think we could do a lot worse than Green when there's a couple of regulars missing. O'Dea is still only 26 and back playing in Europe so I wouldn't dispose of him just yet. He has done reasonably well at times for us despite not playing regularly at his clubs and we're short enough on centre backs. There can't be a huge amount left in Dunne and O'Shea isn't getting any younger (or better!). I have no case to make for the other four really.

[tetsujin1979]

Agreed wording by Dunphy was ott. He is becoming increasingly irritating to watch on the panel and is entirely unable to rebuff Brady's defence of Trap. Regarding Whelan though, his fall in standards has been synonymous with the collapse of the team in general in the past few years. He has been absolutely dire and should have been axed from the team long ago.

I think Whelan will possibly be in there with a bunch of Trap's favorites that might never play for us again now that he's gone-Cox, Keogh, O'Dea, McShane, Green, Sammon even Walters

Maybe the end of Walters being used as a winger, but I doubt he'll be dropped completely

[KK77]

Bringing the car Whelan drives into it while he earns money for old rope at RTE makes it laughable. Never mind what he earns from McDonalds.

[DeLorean]

I'm surprised they didn't come back after the ads to apologise... that Glenn actually drives a Citroen C3 and only has the one.

[geysir]

I'm surprised they didn't come back after the ads to apologise... that Glenn actually drives a Citroen C3 and only has the one.

But I guess it comes with a recently installed new windscreen.

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Maybe the end of Walters being used as a winger, but I doubt he'll be dropped completely

agreed - think walters offers us alot if played in his correct position

Also think Cox will be given a shot at his correct position - think Cox is a good player with an eye for goal and cud do well if given a chance


With respect to Keogh, O Dea, Sammon and McShane - they cud be told to take a holiday

[SwanVsDalton]

Glenn achieved 100% pass completion at the weekend - 63 passes made, not a one given away.

[DeLorean]

He could sign for Liverpool for £15m with stats like that.

[tricky_colour]

Glenn achieved 100% pass completion at the weekend - 63 passes made, not a one given away.

He has a 91% pass completion rate.
I have been trying to work out the probability of him doing that and at first I came up with a figure of once about every 5 games, which seems
far too low, however I think the way to do it is to calculate the probability of 63 good passes which is 0.91^63=0.00262 or once in 380.5 games.

Turns out he is the 12th best passer in the Prem, Coleman is our next best then McCarthy.

[back of the net]

He could sign for Liverpool for £15m with stats like that.

unfortunately he may have to settle for one to crystal palace - pulis rummoured to be lining up a 2.5mil bid for him in january

[tricky_colour]

Well he was part of Stokes win over Cheslea today.


he looks a different player since he grew a mustache.

[Charlie Darwin]

Sent off at Newcastle for what Tony Cottee called a crazy second yellow for bundling into the back of someone. Was 1-0 to Stoke, now 1-1 as Wilson followed him into the dressing room a couple of minutes later.

[peadar1987]

Sent off at Newcastle for what Tony Cottee called a crazy second yellow for bundling into the back of someone. Was 1-0 to Stoke, now 1-1 as Wilson followed him into the dressing room a couple of minutes later.

It was never a yellow card. Hassling the player from behind near the sideline just inside his own half. Shocking decision (and Whelan had been playing okay until then as well).

The first yellow was just stupid though, kicking the ball away. You do something that plain thick and you're leaving yourself wide open to criminal refereeing decisions like Atkinson's

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Jonathan Walters

Was characteristically hard-working but offered little else, even before the two dismissals, as he failed to produce any real moments of quality. It's fairly easy to see how he's scored a solitary goal this season.

Goal.com

A bad day for all the Irish Stokies then.

[peadar1987]

Walters was alright first half. Held the ball up well and distribution was decent (and put in a really good cross or two). He never really looked like a goal threat, but that's not the job he's in the team for at the moment.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

He's been missing a lot of gilt edged chances in fairness.

http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/...rs-3-yards-out

The Stoke fans despise him.

They rate Ireland across the board. Wilson and Whelan are more polarising figures. The vast majority do not like Walters.

[peadar1987]

That chance was hardly gilt-edged, very narrow angle, moving at speed, and he sliced it. That thread is a bit of a joke (a couple of people call out the poster who started it)

I'm not sure where you get the idea that the Stoke fans despise Walters. He's a very popular figure at the club, his name gets sung most games at the Brit. There's a noisy minority who are frustrated with his poor finishing, but out of the Irish players, Whelan is probably the least popular.

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Someone blamed Whelan's getting sent off for their capitulation but the majority stood up for him.

Like you say, there is a lot of vitriol on these fan forums but there is an extremely ill sentiment against Walters after starting 100 odd games in a row and missing several penalties.

[tricky_colour]

Seems like Stoke are not much a of a team with 2 of the Irish missing.

[peadar1987]

Someone blamed Whelan's getting sent off for their capitulation but the majority stood up for him.

Like you say, there is a lot of vitriol on these fan forums but there is an extremely ill sentiment against Walters after starting 100 odd games in a row and missing several penalties.

Whelan's sending off was the turning point, but the sending off wasn't his fault.

The general feeling about Walters is that he works very hard and contributes a lot to the team overall, although people are frustrated with his performance once he gets in front of goal of late. He's hardly despised, even if he's not as popular as, say, Ricardo Fuller or Sanli Tuncay were.

Seems like Stoke are not much a of a team with 2 of the Irish missing.

Not many teams are up to much when down to 9 men for over half the game, unfortunately