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    I wonder does that ("you do what he says or you dont play") apply to Coleman, who appears to have a 'free to roam' pass in his back pocket?
    He does end up in some strange positions, veering into CM and even over to the left side of CM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I wonder does that ("you do what he says or you dont play") apply to Coleman, who appears to have a 'free to roam' pass in his back pocket?
    He does end up in some strange positions, veering into CM and even over to the left side of CM.
    Maybe Trapattoni doesn't recognise him?

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    A CM of Coleman and Hunt would be 'interesting'.

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    It would be like our current CM, a void, non-existent, etc etc - but for different reasons obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    It would be like our current CM, a void, non-existent, etc etc - but for different reasons obviously.
    At least you'd see them. Running around in circles in the general direction of the ball, tripping over their heels, etc.

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    I see Whelan was muscled off the ball in midfield in the lead-up to the Newcastle goal tonight, though Begovic will take the flak for his non-save.

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    He was played into a bit of a tight spot, there was a player to the left of him who should have been an
    outlet but unfortunately he ran to a position where he was unavailable hence there was no much on for him
    and he got caught on the ball, he could have done better though perhaps.
    Still 3 points for Stoke and he was got a decent rating on Sky sports.
    "All-round good display some excellent passing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    He was played into a bit of a tight spot, there was a player to the left of him who should have been an
    outlet but unfortunately he ran to a position where he was unavailable hence there was no much on for him
    and he got caught on the ball, he could have done better though perhaps.
    Still 3 points for Stoke and he was got a decent rating on Sky sports.
    "All-round good display some excellent passing".
    The commentators gave him high praise throughout the match, did note that as one bad moment.
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    He is actually one of our highest placed players in the stats, and the highest in his position.
    I looked at the number of dispossessions per game and his was 0.5 where as for McCarthy it was 0.9.
    So it's a pretty rare event for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    He is actually one of our highest placed players in the stats, and the highest in his position.
    I looked at the number of dispossessions per game and his was 0.5 where as for McCarthy it was 0.9.
    So it's a pretty rare event for him.
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    Yeah just like in my favorite movie, Titanic, when Leo says when you got nothin you got nothing to lose? Oh Leo is so dreamy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Yeah just like in my favorite movie, Titanic, when Leo says when you got nothin you got nothing to lose? Oh Leo is so dreamy.
    How many times did you see it in the cinema but?

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    But??????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crosby87 View Post
    Yeah just like in my favorite movie, Titanic, when Leo says when you got nothin you got nothing to lose?
    Bob Dylan must be a fan as well.

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    Assuming it comes down to a choice as to who is to play beside McCarthy (ignoring the Trap won't change clamour), Whelan or Andrews? In the past I would have opted for Andrews but Whelan is playing regularly in the Premiership and will perform better with a more skilful player beside him. Whelan for me.
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    I'd pick Gibson beside McCarthy, if available. I'm genuinely sick of the sight of Whelan in a green shirt. He offers absolutely nothing, and it's astounding that he's been playing regular EPL football for so long. If anything, it serves to show how little technique you need to play in midfield in that league. When Whelan receives the ball, his first instinct is to either pass it back in the direction it came, pass it back to the goalkeeper, or lump it up the field into 'the channels'. He never knows what to do before he gets the ball, and lacks the composure and vision to turn, pick a pass, and execute it with any accuracy, and change the focus of the attack - something which seems to come naturally to even a developing Wigan player like McCarthy. If Whelan was a rugby player, he'd be Tomas O'Leary.

    He's nominally there as a 'holding' or defensive midfielder, but even if he was an impressive reader of the game, and good at breaking up play (which he isn't), the trend in European football is not for Carsley-type anchormen these days, but for Carrick/Busquets/Alonso/Pirlo-type deep-lying playmakers who can combine decent athleticism with intelligent, measured passing. Whelan does not fit in this mould, and neither does Meyler, for that matter, on recent evidence. Gibson is the best suited to that deep-lying role from our scant resources, and a McCarthy-Gibson partnership would at least give us a bit of technical savvy in the middle without compromising on athleticism.

    Edit - and if the above sounds a bit harsh, let's not forget that Whelan is closing in on 50 caps. We've had plenty of limited midfielders before, but the likes of Holland, Kinsella, Carsley and McLoughlin could all put in effective performances on their day. Even Kilbane had a few good days in his ill-fated central-midfield run. I just don't see what Whelan offers.
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    I'd agree Whelan is hardly the most inspiring player on the pitch nothing, his game seems to focus on safety,
    on that occasion he would have done better to be even more negative and kick the ball into touch!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Bob Dylan must be a fan as well.

    You mean Robert Zimmerman? Thats Bob's (as I call him) real name.
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    Glenn Whelan could well face legal trouble over a horror challenge on Javi Garcia right at the start of the second half in today's match against Manchester City. I've just watched it myself, and it was a two footed long jump kind of "tackle" that was clearly meant to break Garcia's leg. Howard Webb was three yards away and didn't give a card, probably because Zabaleta fouled Whelan immediately after.

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    Yeah I think he's facing a couple of years in prison for that one.

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