what about those pesky belgians!Originally Posted by christo
The thing about Mont is, they leak goals, But they can also score plenty. i feel if we tighten up around the back and cut out their attacking form, we can get them on the quick break.
Mont are gonna feel hard done by the reulst they got against bulgaria, becuase they might have had all 3 points.
another thing is, mont's next 2 games in this group after us, are both against Italy- they play them away then home ( surely the manager is going to be thinking they will do well to take any points off them) so you can be sure they will burst their balls to get something against us.
2-1 to ireland
highlights of Mont V Bul http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMVnAVjpJSY
Last edited by beepbeep; 07/09/2008 at 9:41 PM.
what about those pesky belgians!
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Two comments on the video, how can you not sell out your ground for your first ever competitive game against high profile opponents. And, for the equaliser there were some serious diving from the bulgarians.
It was sold out.Stand that is half empty is designated for away fans and there were only 100 Bulgarians.You will come there.
It was sold out.Stand that is half empty is designated for away fans and there were only 100 Bulgarians.You will come there
Really -sounds expilcit -sorry couldn't help it!
backs to the wall for this 1 but i am fairly confident of at least a point and the band wagon will roll again
I definitely think we're capable of snatching a win here, but my head says we'll draw.
Can see us taking the lead with Montenegro getting a fairly late equalizer.
Actually wouldn't mind Hunt not playing, it would force Trap into playing A. Reid
1-1.
Doyler to nab another, the lads confidence must be sky high right now which is amazing for us. I'm feeling confident of a win too. I hope if we do take the lead that we keep at them unlike the Georgia game. If we can grab a couple their heads will drop and we should go on and win comfortable enough.
I think a 1-1 Draw is the best we can hope for!
It's pleasing to read that Montenegro fancy their chances against us. It puts a bit of extra pressure on the home side and it ensures that we are motivated for this game.
With Bulgaria drawing there, a draw would be acceptable.
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Agree but if we go looking for a draw we will get beaten. We need to be positive and go with same attidude as the Georgia game. I think the players will be confident in the system and if they can keep it going for the full 90 mins( which is my worry) then we will get a win. If we retreat into our shell we will concede, we always do.
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Ah don't be worrying what others got. Lets go and get rightly stuck in and come away with all 3. We need to get that "show them respect" out of our heads.
I reckon we should be looking to win this. Even though Montenegro have a few useful players it was not that long ago we were beating them when they were merged with Serbia. They should be far weaker now.
As for looking at some of the clubs their players are playing for and judging them solely by that remember that we have two champions league winners in our first 11 something which most other countries of a similar size can only dream about, irrespective of whether one of them happens to be John O'Shea. People less knowledgeable about our team probably pick him out as our outstanding player while the likes of Doyle and Hunt who play for recently relegated Reading are far more capable players in most people's minds.
If we want to qualify for the World Cup then we have to pick up points where Bulgaria have failed to do so and this is the perfect opportunity to get that ball rolling. If we lost I'd see it as a major blow to our qualification hopes while a draw would be a missed opportunity in my mind that will probably come back to haunt us.
Saying that it's hard to know how good or bad we are as Georgia looked fairly poor. Both of Montenegro's goals came from set pieces so I'd worry about us in that area.
Last edited by youngirish; 08/09/2008 at 12:35 PM.
we shouldnt show them to much respect and worry more about our own game. ok they will be tough but pretty much all the games will be. need to go out for the win and hopefully will get it. obvisiouly there manager hasnt a clue about us but thats his problem.
Very true. It really would be a fantastic start if we could get our noses in front of Bulgaria right from the off.
Lets make no mistake about Wednesday - the "Mysterious Montenegrans" mean business and have the confidence to give us a real grilling.
Not dragging this off topic with tales from the crypt yet - Anyone else recall the "Mysterious Macedonians"? Don't have to remind anyone that we lost there 3-2 in 1997 and our qualifying hopes for Euro 2000 died there in 1999.
We do right to take nothing for granted. That said, with the element of surprise slightly removed - I'm hopeful we can turn in a composed, positive and aggressive performance. Standing off them through fear could be just as counter-productive.
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From what Ive heard and read about this team, they are good going forward but not so solid at the back. If Hungary can put 3 past them (yes in a friendly) we should at least score one. I think the key will be the defence. Be patient keep things tight at the back and we'll have a good chance.
Im wary of Vucinic from Roma but hopefully Dunne will take care of him. Also hopefully, the euphoria of their first game last sat might have taken a bit out of them in the hope that they not be motivated to the same level for this game.
In light of the results at the weekend, a win would put us in an excellent position heading into the cyprus game.
To clarify, I wasn't saying they should go there trying to get a draw. They should go there looking to win, as they should in every match. However, if after 90 minutes, the scores are level, it's an acceptable result, IMO.
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I agree but it could also prove later on to be a missed opportunity. It would be a disaster, however, if Montenegro beat us as they could well go into second place in the group and might then fancy their chances for qualification.
I think if we beat them it will not only give us the jump on Bulgaria but take the air out of Montenegro's sails and ensure that from then onwards they only play a secondary role in deciding who qualifies. The group imo would quickly become a 3 horse race - us, Italy and Bulgaria. The Montengro result against Bulgaria was the best possible outcome for us and we should now go and try to capitalise on it.
Can I just confirm: this game is live on Setanta (only), kick off 6pm our time, yes?
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