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    LOI clubs producing youngsters?

    Simply will it happen and what is being done to create the next waive of players for our league clubs and international team.

    A bit pie in the sky, but with this centre of excellence being opened up it should work on a draft basis, with lets say 12 of the most promising graduates promoted to LOI clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Simply will it happen and what is being done to create the next waive of players for our league clubs and international team.

    A bit pie in the sky, but with this centre of excellence being opened up it should work on a draft basis, with lets say 12 of the most promising graduates promoted to LOI clubs.
    like american football, college drafts to the nfl?
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    Limerick have two 17 year olds that went on an Irish Development team to Holland recently and are bringing through lots of young talent from limerick and the surrounding area (clare, tipperary etc..) at the moment and hopefully these players will be ones for the future in LOI or International. The good thing about it is that players are approaching limerick wanting to play LOI and test themselves.

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    yeah thats what i mean like. it would be cool if we produced players at home, and they actually played competitive football here, rather than wasting time over in england at 16(unless of course they have outragous talent and are destined to reach the first team)

    I will say one thing though if we are to make our players here, we need to give them our own style and not be carbon copies of british players.

    its good news about those players at limerick.

    like american football
    yeah, sort of.

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    The transition from 12 to 10 team premier means that relatively few clubs are in a position to take a chance on blooding youngsters this season. Indeed the ten team premier is likely to mean that fewer young players will get a chance at the highest level of the game here since clubs will be under more pressure with either Europe or relegation never too far away.
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    There is plenty of talent out there and as you say alot of young players go over to england and waste their time in the reserves for lower league teams and never reach their potential. Irish clubs need to look more to the future players. I Think limerick and Wexford Youths are doing a great job in this way. Don't know much about the youth development or set ups of other clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    The transition from 12 to 10 team premier means that relatively few clubs are in a position to take a chance on blooding youngsters this season. Indeed the ten team premier is likely to mean that fewer young players will get a chance at the highest level of the game here since clubs will be under more pressure with either Europe or relegation never too far away.
    Surely some clubs will resort to youngsters, given the tightening budgets around the place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    The transition from 12 to 10 team premier means that relatively few clubs are in a position to take a chance on blooding youngsters this season. Indeed the ten team premier is likely to mean that fewer young players will get a chance at the highest level of the game here since clubs will be under more pressure with either Europe or relegation never too far away.
    its a pity that things are going to be that way (for a while at least), but i think limerick and Wexford are a great example for other clubs, both are blooding through new players for the future and in turn both in financially comfortable positions because they aren't paying out massive wages to older players.

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    It will be interesting with this Dutch guy in charge of player development to see what happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    The transition from 12 to 10 team premier means that relatively few clubs are in a position to take a chance on blooding youngsters this season. Indeed the ten team premier is likely to mean that fewer young players will get a chance at the highest level of the game here since clubs will be under more pressure with either Europe or relegation never too far away.
    Would the flip of that be that there'd be more spots available for youngsters in division 1, therefore creating another bridge between schoolboy and top level football?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Would the flip of that be that there'd be more spots available for youngsters in division 1, therefore creating another bridge between schoolboy and top level football?
    Also plenty of places in the U20's and A Championship for youngsters to be developed and as you say bridge the gap between schoolboy and top level football.

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    We are looking at going 16s, 17s, 18s, 20s and first team next season maybe even 15s as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Would the flip of that be that there'd be more spots available for youngsters in division 1, therefore creating another bridge between schoolboy and top level football?
    True of course, but D1 has never been an environment conducive to the radical development of silky football skills
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    Luckily the premier is pure brazillian at this stage...
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    Compared to the First Division, it is.

    You're right that if there's 22 clubs, there's always 242 first team places up for grabs, but it's probably better for the younger players to throw them in in the Premier. Learn more earlier.

    To summarise - Keep UCD in the Premier.

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    Bohs have completely restructured their youth system with the partnership they've made with DCU. Considering the scholarships and world class facilities on offer, Bohs should be the place to be for North Dublin based young players. Rovers have done a lot of work in Tallaght aswell which should see a shift of the power in youth football in South Dublin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishultra View Post
    Simply will it happen and what is being done to create the next waive of players for our league clubs and international team.

    A bit pie in the sky, but with this centre of excellence being opened up it should work on a draft basis, with lets say 12 of the most promising graduates promoted to LOI clubs.
    Hopefully, these centers and the FAI's new youth academies will be protected from foreign invasion. I can see British clubs coming in (with their overweight scouts with Dublin accents) and simply grabbing what they want, throw them on the subs for a few years, wreck their lives etc - just what they do at present to 99% of players they steal from under the noses of the FAI.

    Youth development produces new talent and drives down wages. LOI clubs like Cork should take note! I know that Cork have a good youth system but how many players have they held onto that progressed to senior club level?

    I think that professional/full time training for the most talented school goers is a good idea - a summer training camp in other words. Unfortunately most clubs do not have the money to invest in professional youth development hence the cycle of overpaid rejects continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niallsparky View Post
    Bohs have completely restructured their youth system with the partnership they've made with DCU. Considering the scholarships and world class facilities on offer, Bohs should be the place to be for North Dublin based young players. Rovers have done a lot of work in Tallaght aswell which should see a shift of the power in youth football in South Dublin.
    Hopefully some club will do something similar with UCD also. UCD produce good players but they are not really a football club. They can never be professional can they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnpark View Post
    They can never be professional can they?
    Course we can. Why can't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    Also plenty of places in the U20's and A Championship for youngsters to be developed and as you say bridge the gap between schoolboy and top level football.
    If someone has not broken through to first team by 20 chances are won't make it to the highest level.
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