World Cup Qualifying Group 8

**geysir** · 05/09/2009, 7:19 PM

Italy turning the screw and ripping now
A hairsbreadth from scoring a 2nd

**Crosby87** · 05/09/2009, 7:20 PM

no use to pay for Trap I could coach the team like this. No cohesion what so ever.

**cudsy1** · 05/09/2009, 7:22 PM

johnny mcdonnell at half time

��look like the plan is to score from a setpiece....we�re easy to play against��

sounds like sense to me

**geysir** · 05/09/2009, 7:28 PM

Can you believe it
second og
italy 2 up

**SkStu** · 05/09/2009, 7:28 PM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

no use to pay for Trap I could coach the team like this. No cohesion what so ever.

well said - we are overwhelmingly average.

**Stuttgart88** · 05/09/2009, 8:49 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

overwhelmingly average.

I love it

**bob_h** · 06/09/2009, 1:25 PM

I made a Flash application which allows you enter in your predicted results for the remaining games in Group 8, and the outcome of these results are shown in the league table.

The Flash application can be found here:
http://permutations.netau.net/

I made it before yesterdays games but have updated it to include those scores. Just enter in a score beside each team and you'll see the effects instantly on the table. The table only updates if a score is entered in for both teams of a fixture.

To show others your predictions and resulting table, just click the Save As Image button and the results and table will be saved as an image which you can post up here.

Here is what I thought would happen before yesterdays games, and I actually got 2 of yesterdays results correct!

Ireland to finish top with Italy a point behind

**Stuttgart88** · 06/09/2009, 7:54 PM

Good man Bob, I like your work.

I've been running a spreadsheet for each of the last 3 campaigns - even with some nice coloured bits - but you're technologically superior to me.

**Colbert Report** · 07/09/2009, 7:30 AM

There's no way we're going to win the group. Italy would have to draw Bulgaria on Wednesday followed by a loss to Ireland and a win against Cyprus.

We would have to beat Italy and Montenegro and hope for a draw in the Italy/Bulgaria match or else hope that Cyprus can get at least a draw from the Italians (not gonna happen).

**elroy** · 07/09/2009, 8:38 AM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

There's no way we're going to win the group. Italy would have to draw Bulgaria on Wednesday followed by a loss to Ireland and a win against Cyprus.

We would have to beat Italy and Montenegro and hope for a draw in the Italy/Bulgaria match or else hope that Cyprus can get at least a draw from the Italians (not gonna happen).

Very optimistic, the main point is at least we have put ourselves in this position. The only result you could complain about so far in this campaign is the draw away to Montenegro and thats been picky, maybe the home game against Bulgaria but we didnt deserve a win that night. So overall the results have been very good.

The combination of results we require isnt that far fetched, although one of my concerns would be us going into the final game against Montenegro needing to win for either first or second place, would be a very very nervy night.

**pineapple stu** · 07/09/2009, 8:55 AM

Originally Posted by Colbert Report

There's no way we're going to win the group.

Yeah, looks that way alright.

But against that, if Bulgaria don't beat Italy on Wednesday, a win at home against Montenegro guarantees second in the group, regardless of the results in Ireland v Italy, Bulgaria v Georgia and Cyprus v Bulgaria. Very good position for us. Looks like Scotland/Norway won't make the play-offs (ten points; we've ten already), so we're hoping to draw Latvia or Hungary really and take it from there.

**Schumi** · 07/09/2009, 9:18 AM

We're very likely to get second as it stands, and more likely to get first than third. Who could complain about that in a group with Italy?

**pineapple stu** · 07/09/2009, 9:20 AM

What's first third mean?

**geysir** · 07/09/2009, 9:26 AM

Sounds like a Delaneyism.

**paul_oshea** · 07/09/2009, 9:26 AM

in chances he means:

most likely to get 2nd, 2nd most likely to get 3rd place, and 3rd most likely to get 1st place.simples.

**Schumi** · 07/09/2009, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

What's first third mean?

I meant "first than third".

**paul_oshea** · 07/09/2009, 9:32 AM

Ah schumi you could have played on the pervese logic instead of being all sensible and commenting on your mistake.

**pineapple stu** · 07/09/2009, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by Schumi

I meant "first than third".

Ah right. Thought you'd found a new way for us to get into the play off!

**Stuttgart88** · 07/09/2009, 9:47 AM

Look, I know we were (are) crap, but by all accounts Italy were awful on Saturday, as they have been all year. I hear Buffon made a great save just before Gerorgia scored their first OG. We can beat Italy and Italy and Bulgaria drawing ain't beyond fantasy either. Come on...

(Any suspicion of Italy based Kaladze being bribed?

**ifk101** · 07/09/2009, 9:53 AM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Look, I know we were (are) crap, but by all accounts Italy were awful on Saturday, as they have been all year. I hear Buffon made a great save just before Gerorgia scored their first OG. We can beat Italy and Italy and Bulgaria drawing ain't beyond fantasy either. Come on...

(Any suspicion of Italy based Kaladze being bribed?

As crap as we are, we have gone through a qualification campaign without losing an away game. Traditionally we are a very strong home team and with just two home games left in this campaign we are in a very strong position (no matter how we stumbled into it).

I'm sure Italy will be happy to come away from Dublin with a draw so let's take the game to them.