Fixtures 28th/29th/1st

**marinobohs** · 03/07/2019, 6:42 PM

Originally Posted by PartySaint

I didn’t realise Bohs were expected to be 3rd at this point in the season. In that case Long is just doing as expected and not that great at all.

Overachieving compared to Pats. But that's setting the bar VERY low.

**SkStu** · 03/07/2019, 6:44 PM

Originally Posted by PartySaint

I didn’t realise Bohs were expected to be 3rd at this point in the season. In that case Long is just doing as expected and not that great at all.

In fairness, thats not what he said at all. He was referencing our position relative to Pats. One point behind last year wasnt a lot to make up. Being third and comfortably so for now, is a very welcome surprise but it has been coming under Long. Easily the best manager in the league over the last 4 seasons. Aaron Callaghan and Keith Long are among the best decisions the club ever made (admittedly some of the previous decisions under different leadership set a fairly low baseline

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**sbgawa** · 03/07/2019, 9:28 PM

The implosion of cork, Waterford and pats underperforming compared to reasonable expectations has made the league a very different one then was expected. Good to see in some ways after the predictability of the last few seasons

**marinobohs** · 04/07/2019, 7:04 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

In fairness, thats not what he said at all. He was referencing our position relative to Pats. One point behind last year wasnt a lot to make up. Being third and comfortably so for now, is a very welcome surprise but it has been coming under Long. Easily the best manager in the league over the last 4 seasons. Aaron Callaghan and Keith Long are among the best decisions the club ever made (admittedly some of the previous decisions under different leadership set a fairly low baseline

).

Actually I was highlighting the silly arrogance of Pats fans "surprised" at them being below Bohs. With the exception of Corks implosion (don't think anyone saw such rapid decline coming) the League is not that surprising, Dundalk and Shams 1st and 2nd, Bohs Derry Pats in next group. Waterford drop somewhat predictable as they tailed off last season.
Long has been brilliant and Bohs better than expected but not shockingly so. Pats fans a bit bitter that their spending spree left them worse off ?

**Dalymountrower** · 04/07/2019, 7:23 AM

Surprised that Waterford and Sligo aren't competing for 3rd/4th.Two good football teams.Pats overacheived last season.Every fan's delusions about their own teams propects is a matter of course, but some of the stuff from some Pats posters on here is beyond that.

Pats fans I know have been seriously worried about the future for their team and club for a long timeThe sooner they face facts and move to Tallaght, the better for them.

**D24Saint** · 04/07/2019, 7:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Surprised that Waterford and Sligo aren't competing for 3rd/4th.Two good football teams.Pats overacheived last season.Every fan's delusions about their own teams propects is a matter of course, but some of the stuff from some Pats posters on here is beyond that.

Pats fans I know have been seriously worried about the future for their team and club for a long timeThe sooner they face facts and move to Tallaght, the better for them.

Bit like telling someone the sooner you slit your wrists your troubles are over.

**Dalymountrower** · 04/07/2019, 8:02 AM

Originally Posted by D24Saint

Bit like telling someone the sooner you slit your wrists your troubles are over.

Pats always get a huge crowd when they play in Tallaght, could see them really rivalling Rovers for crowds out there.
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**PartySaint** · 04/07/2019, 8:07 AM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Pats always get a huge crowd when they play in Tallaght, could see them really rivalling Rovers for crowds out there.
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As do Bohs, maybe the 4 Dublin clubs could share out there.

**D24Saint** · 04/07/2019, 8:14 AM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Pats always get a huge crowd when they play in Tallaght, could see them really rivalling Rovers for crowds out there.
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I grew up in Tallaght and just don't see it. I reckon we would be seen as secondary tenents. In the nearby communities Kilnamanagh ,Kingswood, Clondalkin you will find some Pats fans but no more that the Rovers fans in them. In the heart of Tallaght it's all Rovers in LOI followers . I think our fate is entwined with Dublin 8 or it's surrounds.

**Dalymountrower** · 04/07/2019, 8:32 AM

From todays Guardian

"Lampard will take the skeleton squad who have already reported back for pre-season to Dublin on Friday, with his first game in charge to be Wednesday’s friendly against Bohemians at Dalymount Park"

Who are these emaciated players they speak of?

**Mr A** · 04/07/2019, 8:37 AM

Bit early in the year to be down to the bare bones in fairness.

**D24Saint** · 04/07/2019, 8:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

From todays Guardian

"Lampard will take the skeleton squad who have already reported back for pre-season to Dublin on Friday, with his first game in charge to be Wednesday’s friendly against Bohemians at Dalymount Park"

Who are these emaciated players they speak of?

Has Chelsea XI written all over it.

**sbgawa** · 04/07/2019, 9:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dalymountrower

Surprised that Waterford and Sligo aren't competing for 3rd/4th.Two good football teams.Pats overacheived last season.Every fan's delusions about their own teams propects is a matter of course, but some of the stuff from some Pats posters on here is beyond that.

Pats fans I know have been seriously worried about the future for their team and club for a long timeThe sooner they face facts and move to Tallaght, the better for them.

The Astro in the new North Dublin County Council Stadium would be a better solution , Bohs and Shels on alternate Fridays and Pats on Saturdays. whats not to like and Dalymount is closer to Inchicore than Tallaght Stadium so its a better fit all round really.
The Government have been promoting Co-living in the inner city so it must make sense

**Jack B** · 04/07/2019, 9:45 AM

Tbf I don't really understand the points being made about unrealistic expectations etc. The majority of Pats fans just don't want to watch the absolute tripe that Kenny is serving up when we have a squad capable of better. There were a notable number of people (a lot of them non Pats supporters btw) that seemed to think we'd be challenging Dundalk/Rovers, which was always mad, but it's not unfair to expect us to be right in there in the European conversation with Bohs and Derry, both of whom are probably overachieving vs expectation to the same degree that we're underachieving.

The more supporters of other teams see us play this season the more they'll understand the real issue at the moment. It's not about having unfounded demands for immediate success, it's that Kenny is absolutely winging it week by week and there hasn't been a single hint of progress or signs of a plan at any stage so far this season. The apathetic atmosphere around the place is up there with the worst I've ever seen and it's because the soul is being completely drained out of the footballing side of things.

**D24Saint** · 04/07/2019, 9:50 AM

"The apathetic atmosphere around the place is up there with the worst I've ever seen and it's because the soul is being completely drained out of the footballing side of things."

The most worrying part imo. I can see things getting worse when Europe is done and dusted. The club seems to be lacking a bit of leadership.

**marinobohs** · 04/07/2019, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by D24Saint

"The apathetic atmosphere around the place is up there withr the worst I've ever seen and it's because the soul is being completely drained out of the footballing side of things."

The most worrying part imo. I can see things getting worse when Europe is done and dusted. The club seems to be lacking a bit of leadership.

As a matter of interest IF Pats got rid of Kenny now (I doubt it will happen before seasons end but let’s pretend), who would come in ? Long has agreed a three year contract pretty much ruling him out. Bucko has two year (I think) deal at Sligo, so who would you like ?

**PartySaint** · 04/07/2019, 4:06 PM

At this stage even though I don't think he's a good manager I would give it to Martin Russell until the end of the season. At least it will be a decent brand of entertaining football for awhile and he's a Pats man.

Alan Mathews is on our board now though so knowing Pats they'd give it to him.

**Mr A** · 04/07/2019, 4:10 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

As a matter of interest IF Pats got rid of Kenny now (I doubt it will happen before seasons end but let’s pretend), who would come in ? Long has agreed a three year contract pretty much ruling him out. Bucko has two year (I think) deal at Sligo, so who would you like ?

me [chanting]: Roddy, Roddy
All Non Pats Fans: Roddy, RODDY
Michael D: [pounding on the Spire] RODDY, RODDY, RODDY!

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 04/07/2019, 6:28 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

As a matter of interest IF Pats got rid of Kenny now (I doubt it will happen before seasons end but let’s pretend), who would come in ? Long has agreed a three year contract pretty much ruling him out. Bucko has two year (I think) deal at Sligo, so who would you like ?

Edit - one year. We offered 2 and he said he'd take a year for starters

**joey B** · 04/07/2019, 6:31 PM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

As a matter of interest IF Pats got rid of Kenny now (I doubt it will happen before seasons end but let’s pretend), who would come in ? Long has agreed a three year contract pretty much ruling him out. Bucko has two year (I think) deal at Sligo, so who would you like ?

Collie O'Neill might be an interesting one for Pats...