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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    I wasn't thinking of him for the 'big' job, but I thought you were taking the píss out of him as a LOI manager.
    His success as a LOI manager is harder to quantify. He managed the two biggest spenders to multiple league titles but, again, his European record was shockingly bad most of the time, especially against Icelandic teams! His next appointment is crucial.

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    Seems MON is on course and Keane may very well be the assistant. Although i initially had some concerns i actually think it would be a good idea. Keane's aggression tempered with oversight from MONs man management abilities. Could be pretty exciting.
    I also don't think Keane would have an issue giving out to MON if we start playing hoofball.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...1581194?page=2

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    Interesting discussion here about it:

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/734/484146/

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    O Neill yes good appointment, but o Neill and Keane - wtf, that's a distraction. Why would O Neill need Keane anyway, can he not do it on his own, its only international football ffs. Would def not last

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    Let's start with his European record...despite one good run, it is extremely underwhelming. Probably the best yardstick by which to judge his suitability for international management.

    Also, he'd be devoured by RTE and the general meeja. It would be ugly. Somewhere closer to King than Kerr.

    I'd be interested in hearing the case for Fenlon.
    Even through his red-tinted glasses, I suspect Bonnie was being frivolous. Fenlon also did a pretty awful job at Derry after Kenny departed in 2006.

    Quote Originally Posted by back of the net View Post
    l

    Not sure how id feel if true
    Starting to get some life in last cpl of hours

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...coach-duo.html
    From that article:

    Quote Originally Posted by Luke Edwards
    O’Neill represented Northern Ireland as a player and captained them at the 1982 World Cup, but as a Catholic, as well as the outstanding candidate, he will be warmly welcomed by supporters and media alike
    Contemptible suggestion; Martin's faith was never in doubt, was it? My primary worry now would be how Roy's Mass attendance of late shapes up?

    Luke Edwards; you utter idiot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darklordsbane View Post
    Keane walked out on his country then club if he was in the army he would have been shot as a deserter and rightly so imo
    A rather extreme analogy, there. Are you implying he'd have been deserving of execution after Saipan?...
    Last edited by DannyInvincible; 02/11/2013 at 7:48 AM.

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    It's a GUBU appointment if it comes to pass. The ITV punditry team taking over!
    Maybe we did need some shock therapy and this certainly fits the bill as a shock.
    I didn't see this one coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    O Neill yes good appointment, but o Neill and Keane - wtf, that's a distraction. Why would O Neill need Keane anyway, can he not do it on his own, its only international football ffs. Would def not last
    According to Pat Murphy (who knows O'Neill very well) on the bbc website O'Neill wanted to work with him, and it was O'Neill who approached Keane. If the FAI had foisted him upon O'Neill I would agree, but if O'Neill actually wants to work with him why not.

    They have a fair bit in common. Both got their break under Brian Clough at forest. If it doesn't work out with us they can go back to Forest together and be treated like kings
    Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.

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    I dare Shane Long to tweet "cowboys".

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    Would Keane want to be someone's assistant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I dare Shane Long to tweet "cowboys".
    I doubt It would stop him or any player not happy.
    Or they could go outside like true Irish men settle their differences then share a pint together.

    Never saw this, complete U turn by MON.

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    Oh, loosen up.

    Fascinating outcome. Who in the squad has experience of either? Stokes, Meyler...?

    David Kelly had another dig at Robbie Keane this morning, something along the lines of "if he's as serios about the team as these two will be...". Kelly also refers to the mob for whom satisfaction is always beyond obtaining. I thought Kelly led this mob?

    The rest of his article is decent in fairness!

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-29720239.html

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    Both acid tongue and both quite sore.I can see it go swimmingly at first then stuff simmering both will be outspoken and both wont hold back.Keane will not forgive the likes of long and mccleans tweets and its not like club management you can't afford to isolate players.

    I think they will get good results initially but it will go downhill

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    Quote Originally Posted by backtowalsall View Post
    They have a fair bit in common. Both got their break under Brian Clough at forest.
    And the other common traits?

    It's a fascinating development and should certainly capture the public imagination. Will be interesting to see how they work together and how the players respond.

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    I didn't stop following the team when he returned under Kerr and obviously won't be stopping if he's involved now but I've had concerns about O'Neill coming in without Robertson and this hasn't allayed them at all. The good cop is normally the number 2 so this would be a role reversal and they'd need a good coach beside them as neither are known for that aspect of the job. I'd have had an issue with him getting the managers job but that would be down to the fact that he's a terrible manager rather than anything else, if he can reign in his ego then maybe being a number 2 and learning from O'Neill might be good for him. Hope it works out obviously but it's a gamble if it happens, I think RK will find it difficult not being the main man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy View Post
    James McClean's dream partnership...

    Very good. Are we still doing POTM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    Both acid tongue and both quite sore.I can see it go swimmingly at first then stuff simmering both will be outspoken and both wont hold back.Keane will not forgive the likes of long and mccleans tweets and its not like club management you can't afford to isolate players.

    I think they will get good results initially but it will go downhill
    Pat Murphy on BBC website seems to think Keane has learnt about dealing with players since his last two jobs. He says he has reassessed his methods. Anyway, O'Neill is in charge and his player management is his forte.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24786016

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    And the other common traits?
    They are both midfielders
    They both started their professional careers playing for unheralded sides in Ireland (Cobh/Distillery)
    They both went all the way to captaining a European Cup winning side.
    They both supported Celtic as boys, and both ended up there
    They have both managed Sunderland
    Neither of them suffers fools gladly

    Do you want a few more?
    Bring Back Belfast Celtic F.C.

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    I'm still in denial about the latest developments. What about Martin Jol if Fulham get rid of him as is in the works if rumours to be believed...

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    I'm actually really warming to the idea. I think with Keane involved we'll have someone who will look at the entire irish football structure. I also always wanted to see him succeed in management and this looks like a good forum for him to learn from an experienced manager.

    I don't think it will answer all of Irish footballs problems with the senior squad, and we can expect more traditional football but at least with a modern edge to it.

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    Better sign O'Neill up quick. Both the Fulham and Norwich jobs could be available this evening!

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