2022 Season, Arrivals and Departures

**Nesta99** · 15/08/2022, 10:46 AM

Most loan deals have a recall clause so why threats were necessary unless the parent club were daft enough not to have such a clause. Even for the basket case that is Derby County ye can see why it would be a preferred experience for a player. St Pats really get no luck with these things, from former head coach leaving, beng stranded abroad after being let down by charter flight, and being threatened over an agreed loan extension.

**2 Year Contract** · 15/08/2022, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

Most loan deals have a recall clause so why threats were necessary unless the parent club were daft enough not to have such a clause. Even for the basket case that is Derby County ye can see why it would be a preferred experience for a player. St Pats really get no luck with these things, from former head coach leaving, beng stranded abroad after being let down by charter flight, and being threatened over an agreed loan extension.

There was an option for West Ham to recall him in June but they didn’t opt to recall him and were happy for him to stay until the end of the season. After that was confirmed, pats then let Josh Keeley leave the club to sign for Spurs. It’s clear Anang's agent has advised him to play dirty to get pats to cut the loan short after hearing of Derby's interest. Never nice to see but that’s football. Good goalkeeper and will go on to have a good career no doubt. Meanwhile Danny Rogers is an experienced and capable replacement that’s been signed on a permanent basis so not the end of the world, specially considering there’s only 11 games left this season now.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...-41911114.html

**total hoofball** · 15/08/2022, 12:18 PM

It would have been West Ham not Anang or his agent making the final call to terminate the loan

**2 Year Contract** · 15/08/2022, 1:09 PM

Originally Posted by total hoofball

It would have been West Ham not Anang or his agent making the final call to terminate the loan

Incorrect. If that was the case then they would’ve just recalled him from the loan and there would’ve been no need for the player to threaten to not fly to Sofia if Pats didn’t agree to cut the loan short. As Clancy mentioned, the clause to allow him return in June wasn’t taken up by West Ham

**Nesta99** · 15/08/2022, 1:31 PM

Is there case for breach of contract?

**sbgawa** · 15/08/2022, 1:46 PM

Even if there was a case for breech of contract i wouldnt like to be suing West Ham with thjeir millions.
although Pats do like an aul legal tiff

**Nesta99** · 15/08/2022, 1:52 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Even if there was a case for breech of contract i wouldnt like to be suing West Ham with thjeir millions.
although Pats do like an aul legal tiff

Im sure patsdad could clear it up for us!

**Shinkicker** · 15/08/2022, 2:01 PM

Originally Posted by Nesta99

Im sure patsdad could clear it up for us!

I saw an article saying he would only travel to Sofia and play if they would let him leave. He must have wanted to go. Better without him if that's the case. The keeper yesterday played well and will relish the opportunity presented to him.

**joey B** · 15/08/2022, 3:00 PM

Question for Pats fans,what happened between Clancy and Ian Bermingham? Twitter tells me they fell out and he’s been banished from the squad….

**sbgawa** · 15/08/2022, 3:14 PM

I assumed he was injured, too good a player to be left hanging around and an old enough Pro you'd imagine wouldn't be falling out with people lightly

**patsdad** · 15/08/2022, 3:23 PM

On Joey B’s question, no falling out or banishment just a football decision by the manager that it’s time to move on from Bermo. Not a decision that Pats fans in general would agree with but it’s the managers call.

On Nesta’s question, I think one breach of contract case is enough for us to be pursuing.

**D24Saint** · 15/08/2022, 3:29 PM

Originally Posted by patsdad

On Joey B’s question, no falling out or banishment just a football decision by the manager that it’s time to move on from Bermo. Not a decision that Pats fans in general would agree with but it’s the managers call.

On Nesta’s question, I think one breach of contract case is enough for us to be pursuing.

I certainly wouldn't agree with that. He is a club legend and shouldn't just be tossed aside by a manager who is in the club a wet day. We could have done with Bermo yesterday as Breslin looked knackered half way into the second half.

**Nesta99** · 15/08/2022, 3:31 PM

Originally Posted by patsdad

On Joey B’s question, no falling out or banishment just a football decision by the manager that it’s time to move on from Bermo. Not a decision that Pats fans in general would agree with but it’s the managers call.

On Nesta’s question, I think one breach of contract case is enough for us to be pursuing.

Makes sense, there is a case to be answered by West Ham, player and agent for sure!

**Bunny Kelly** · 15/08/2022, 4:22 PM

I do laugh the suggestions Pats let Keeley go because they thought they had Anang for the rest of the season, in what world does a league of Ireland team turn down that kind of money for their 3rd or maybe potentially 2nd choice keeper

**Jd2793** · 15/08/2022, 4:34 PM

Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly

I do laugh the suggestions Pats let Keeley go because they thought they had Anang for the rest of the season, in what world does a league of Ireland team turn down that kind of money for their 3rd or maybe potentially 2nd choice keeper

yeah its laughable. signing odumusu near the start of the season was a sure sign they didnt see any potential in playing keeley this year.

**Nesta99** · 15/08/2022, 4:43 PM

St Pats are masters at the old obfuscation!

**total hoofball** · 15/08/2022, 4:45 PM

Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract

Incorrect. If that was the case then they would’ve just recalled him from the loan and there would’ve been no need for the player to threaten to not fly to Sofia if Pats didn’t agree to cut the loan short. As Clancy mentioned, the clause to allow him return in June wasn’t taken up by West Ham

So then Derby County tapped up a West Ham United player who was on loan at another club and the loan player and player and his agent engineered his loan termination not West Ham United. Yeah sure.

After O'Donnell-gate, Charter-gate and now Anang-gate it always seems to be someone else's fault with Pats. One way or the other with Clancy publicly throwing a young UK loan player under a bus that will be Pats blacklisted for loans by any credible UK club not a smart move

**2 Year Contract** · 15/08/2022, 5:55 PM

Originally Posted by total hoofball

So then Derby County tapped up a West Ham United player who was on loan at another club and the loan player and player and his agent engineered his loan termination not West Ham United. Yeah sure.

After O'Donnell-gate, Charter-gate and now Anang-gate it always seems to be someone else's fault with Pats. One way or the other with Clancy publicly throwing a young UK loan player under a bus that will be Pats blacklisted for loans by any credible UK club not a smart move

We'll have to wait and see if Pats are put in the big bold boys blacklist due to a comment about a players agent by a manager despite the invaluable development provided to the likes of Jaros, Lewis and Anang (who also got the move to Derby that he wanted at the end of the day). And on the two charters getting cancelled, again, you should be grateful that your club made the news in relation to a European tie for the first time in decades

**D24Saint** · 15/08/2022, 6:06 PM

Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly

I do laugh the suggestions Pats let Keeley go because they thought they had Anang for the rest of the season, in what world does a league of Ireland team turn down that kind of money for their 3rd or maybe potentially 2nd choice keeper

We could have negotiated a short term loan agreement like in the case of James Abankwah.

**D24Saint** · 15/08/2022, 6:07 PM

Originally Posted by total hoofball

So then Derby County tapped up a West Ham United player who was on loan at another club and the loan player and player and his agent engineered his loan termination not West Ham United. Yeah sure.

After O'Donnell-gate, Charter-gate and now Anang-gate it always seems to be someone else's fault with Pats. One way or the other with Clancy publicly throwing a young UK loan player under a bus that will be Pats blacklisted for loans by any credible UK club not a smart move

I blame you for all of the above.