Barry's Army

[rambler14]

Will we be able to nominate and elect at the EGM or will we have to wait for another meeting to do that????

[luka]

A question for the people who called this agm, do the committee members who called this and asked for a motion of no confidence in the chairman, do they resign if and when the motion is defeated?

The way I would do it is any committee member who is against the Chairman now, should be nominated to resign when he's relected. I think it's only right because this could go on forever and ever.

Must cost a fortune in blazers...............

[Redshanks]

Yep, time for the banners!

[rambler14]

What if I printed out 50 or so A4 sheets that say "Walsh In" and "Fook the MSL"???

[rammie]

A motion of no confidence in the chairman should at the very least require each member to evaluate the chairmans performance without personal prejudice.
Barry has done fabulous work for the club and this must be applauded however he is accountable to the elected committee and to the members.
At the last EGM/AGM I was amazed at the bickering that went on,.. the auditor was fantastic because he detailed the financial position impartially.
The most worrying aspect in my humble opinion is that there has been no business plan documented or for that matter not even a mission statement. Financial planning has factored in far too many variables for the club to progress in a particular direction.
I am on neither side and will make my mind up on the night, I hope both sides will put their cases forward without resorting to personal insult or bickering
(we'll leave that to the Brits in their House of parliment).

[Cici900]

What if I printed out 50 or so A4 sheets that say "Walsh In" and "Fook the MSL"???

What if we print a good hundred or two and hand them to anybody in support of Barry Walsh at the gate?

[The Rebel Ram]

A motion of no confidence in the chairman should at the very least require each member to evaluate the chairmans performance without personal prejudice.
Barry has done fabulous work for the club and this must be applauded however he is accountable to the elected committee and to the members.
At the last EGM/AGM I was amazed at the bickering that went on,.. the auditor was fantastic because he detailed the financial position impartially.
The most worrying aspect in my humble opinion is that there has been no business plan documented or for that matter not even a mission statement. Financial planning has factored in far too many variables for the club to progress in a particular direction.
I am on neither side and will make my mind up on the night, I hope both sides will put their cases forward without resorting to personal insult or bickering
(we'll leave that to the Brits in their House of parliment).

I will be giving my support to Barry but it won't be unconditional.
Book-keeping will have to be put into order and will have to be kept uptodate for monthly reports. Efforts will have to be made to put a comprehensive budget plan in place for 2009. Not thrown onto a sheet of paper when it's looked for.
Realistic income expectations will have to be made, not what is hoped for, the best case worst case will have to be balanced out.
He has great contacts and a good buisness knowledge but needs to use the buisness tools to keep control.
He still is IMO the best man for the job at present but as I have said before things can and will have to be run better.

[don ramo]

nobody can plan anything in football, support is to fickle, its grand for this year, but our wages will come in line next year with the wage cap coming in, you would expect for our first year back in the prem for attendances to be a bit higher, and obviously they misjudged the support this town has for its club,

i think if everyone can pull in the same direction and proper procedures are there and kept, we will do good, might have to tighten the purse strings but thats just a sacrifice well have to make,

also the general manager is somthing that the club should seriously consider, a full-time professional, who is qualified to run this club on a daily basis, not havin a go at the current management but they are volunteers

[ramsfan]

general manager is deinitely a way forward, it would remove need for bar manager and a book keeper he/she could include all these roles in job description, u would have a person with finger on pulse daily and problems could be sorted before they develop, immediately it makes a cost saving because what was 2/3 jobs becomes one, allowing more money to be concentrated on team

[offside rule]

general manager is deinitely a way forward, it would remove need for bar manager and a book keeper he/she could include all these roles in job description, u would have a person with finger on pulse daily and problems could be sorted before they develop, immediately it makes a cost saving because what was 2/3 jobs becomes one, allowing more money to be concentrated on team

110% correct Ramsfan.
Any money that can be saved nedds to be done immediatly (even it means removing 2 positions in the club to form one General Manager).
All money saving proceedures need to be viewed and MONEY CONCENTRATED ON TEAM!!!

[ramsfan]

someone agreeing with me i dont believe ,

it is great to talk about committees etc but no matter is there they will only ever have so much money available so what money is ther needs to distributed correctly not paying excessive money in areas that could be avoided

[rambler14]

Heard today that there is more trouble a brewing!

[ramsfan]

every seems to be revealing things so why not just put it out there,

[rambler14]

every seems to be revealing things so why not just put it out there,

It's not my duty to divulge it and I'm not in the position for a public announcement, so i'm keeping quiet.

[ramsfan]

we cant really reduce costs on team they are what is most important we need to look at other areas, immediately we should look at remove role of bar manager this role could be filled in interim by a mix of existing bar staff, club office staff and existing treasurer so is well able to organise bar rotas and stock control, this would increase bar revenue and would allow for signing of new players, would you rather wages spent on ie stephen o flynn or on a role to my mind that seems to be an unnecesary burden on club


transport costs should also be addressed, sending players on the train to dublin and hiring an empty bus to go to dublin to bring them home is criminal waste of money, this is loi not champions league

this is the start of my ideas , no matter who is chairman who is committee they will have to make hard decisions at the end of the day,

[offside rule]

we cant really reduce costs on team they are what is most important we need to look at other areas, immediately we should look at remove role of bar manager this role could be filled in interim by a mix of existing bar staff, club office staff and existing treasurer so is well able to organise bar rotas and stock control, this would increase bar revenue and would allow for signing of new players, would you rather wages spent on ie stephen o flynn or on a role to my mind that seems to be an unnecesary burden on club


transport costs should also be addressed, sending players on the train to dublin and hiring an empty bus to go to dublin to bring them home is criminal waste of money, this is loi not champions league

this is the start of my ideas , no matter who is chairman who is committee they will have to make hard decisions at the end of the day,

Certainly agree that all cost-cutting measures need to be identified and acted on immediately!!!.
Bar manager wages far to much - im sure this could be used elsewhere, ie. -TEAM WAGES (extra experienced players).

Regarding transport, cant see this working (train) as evening Kick Offs will result in team missing last train from Dublin to Cork and having to be put up over nite in Dublin(extra expense).

[ramsfan]

what i meant about transport was we have in the past sent players on train to dublin , then sent an empty bus to dublin to bring them home

roughly about 2000 euro for train and 3-400 for a bus

that sort of money no matter what league you are in is criminal

what should happen is club shuld have its own 35 seater bus there is lots of guys with licences who could drive it and if you work out per year spend on buses it would pay for itself in a couple of years

[drinkfeckarse]

Ideally yes but buses don't come cheap...even on lease I'd say.

[ramsfan]

but surely over 3or so seasons if you added total costes of travel together you would go a long way to paying for it, loads of psv licence holders in cobh who would drive for very little, insurance may be a problem, but it is not as bad as you may think just an idea ?

[rambler14]

I've been to every away game this year bar Derry and Galway, including Wexford in the cup, Fingal in the cup and Waterford in the cup.

That adds up to 8 games. I estimate that each journey could cost around €60 with the trip to Harps costing just a little more(about €80 to €100).

Which means that i've spent nearly €500 chasing them around the country. Surely it would make more sense to allow fans on the bus to help cover the costs???

Hendo saw that a consistent bunch were travelling to away games and asked us would we like to travel on the bus. He went to the commitee and they told him to forget it, and told him that it was a terrible idea.