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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post

    Still though, must be tough being Ireland's first franchise football team. Tallaght has the Shamrocks now though, at least til a better offer for the brand comes in.
    I heard that the Mayor of Albuquerque is lining up something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    Still though, must be tough being Ireland's first franchise football team.

    I believe that honour resides in cork

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tis-smeee View Post
    I believe that honour resides in cork
    Do you know what a franchise is? How does a club, originating with Avondale deciding to set up another club, recruit some local lads and enter a league, constitute a franchise? That is how 90% of clubs are set up.

    A sports franchise is an American idea, a brand which simply fills a slot in a league table, which can be relocated to where-ever a good market exists. Witness San Jose Clash upping sticks and driving down the road to Houston, or the Dodgers club moving across the continent to where they could be the first to draw in support from the relatively new and rapidly expanding settlement of Los Angeles.

    the Shamrock franchise is moving away from its heritage in south inner dublin, ringsend and milltown, and whoring itself to the baying masses of the relatively new and rapidly expanding settlement of Tallaght.
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    Hit nerve did I with so many incarnations of franchise teams in cork over the years Im not surprised

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    Do you know what a franchise is? How does a club, originating with Avondale deciding to set up another club, recruit some local lads and enter a league, constitute a franchise? That is how 90% of clubs are set up.
    Because the FAI sought applications from interested parties in Cork in creating a club specifically for the LOI. And 90% of clubs do not form this way, or the way you described either.
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    They used to attract most of their support from South Dublin when they were in Milltown. They will still attract most of their support from South Dublin in Tallagh. Whats the problem?

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    Jealousy, thats the problem. Arkaga Franchise Club will never have any history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_full View Post
    Jealousy, thats the problem. Arkaga Franchise Club will never have any history.
    Now thats funny. Considering Waterford United are a new club themselves!

    Whatever happened to Waterford FC?

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    No we are not, we simply added the word 'United' to our name, Waterford F.C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half_full View Post
    No we are not, we simply added the word 'United' to our name, Waterford F.C.

    completely different club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tis-smeee View Post
    Hit nerve did I with so many incarnations of franchise teams in cork over the years Im not surprised
    Not really. I see however, you still havent figured out what a franchise is; A club being new, or there being many incarnations of different clubs in one city, doesn't mean its a franchise. Look at Limerick - they've had 37 clubs now at this stage. They aren't, however, a franchise. They're a splitters group, like the majority of clubs (people generally don't just wake up and think one day, "i think i might like football. I shall set up a club so I can play." This process happens all over the world, e.g. Genoa and Milan, or Botafogo and Fluminense. It happens in every sport too, e.g. the Barres and Na Piarsiagh)

    A franchise is where one team occupies the same slot in the league no matter where they play, playing wherever the cash can be gotten, losing all local identity. The next step in the process is allocation of players in order of worst team to best, so that every franchise gets to win sometime. The yanks really know how to exploit sport for profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    Do you know what a franchise is? How does a club, originating with Avondale deciding to set up another club, recruit some local lads and enter a league, constitute a franchise? That is how 90% of clubs are set up.

    A sports franchise is an American idea, a brand which simply fills a slot in a league table, which can be relocated to where-ever a good market exists. Witness San Jose Clash upping sticks and driving down the road to Houston, or the Dodgers club moving across the continent to where they could be the first to draw in support from the relatively new and rapidly expanding settlement of Los Angeles.

    the Shamrock franchise is moving away from its heritage in south inner dublin, ringsend and milltown, and whoring itself to the baying masses of the relatively new and rapidly expanding settlement of Tallaght.
    FYI: a move to Tallaght was first proposed in the Shamrock Rovers' fanzine Hoops Upside Your Head! Rovers have been based there since 1997 through the schoolboys' section, and the club has been working in the South Dublin community (scholarships, Football in the Community) since the fans took over. Also, the movement of our fanbase over the last three decades means that around 50% of our current support already resides in or around Tallaght. Those outside the area (including myself) fully support the move.
    Given that we're a members' club with deep roots in the South Dublin region it makes total sense. Besides, if it's what the fans want it can hardly be described as a franchise.
    Begrudge all you like; you're just someone on the internet. Meanwhile we own our club and are in control of our destiny. Boo! Yah! etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    A franchise is where one team occupies the same slot in the league no matter where they play, playing wherever the cash can be gotten, losing all local identity. The next step in the process is allocation of players in order of worst team to best, so that every franchise gets to win sometime. The yanks really know how to exploit sport for profit.
    Thats not what a franchise is at all. The last bit has nothing got to do with franchises at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge View Post
    Thats not what a franchise is at all. The last bit has nothing got to do with franchises at all.
    The player allocation? I know. I didn't say it did If a franchise isn't "one team occupies the same slot in the league no matter where they play, playing wherever the cash can be gotten, losing all local identity", what is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    If a franchise isn't "one team occupies the same slot in the league no matter where they play, playing wherever the cash can be gotten, losing all local identity", what is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HulaHoop View Post
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    you gotta love the petty jealousy in this thread! We're in their heads Kid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablo View Post
    you gotta love the petty jealousy in this thread! We're in their heads Kid
    Jealousy of what exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GavinZac View Post
    Look at Limerick - they've had 37 clubs now at this stage.
    Yawn. You'd get more people to rise to your petty wumming Gav if you actually honed your skills a bit more, really, you've got the annoying irritant factor down to a tee, now you just need to improve your jokes.

    Anyway back on topic, why haven't the 6 clubs ****ed off yet? Could the FAI exert any pressure on the respective owners of Terryland and Turners Cross to get them booted out of the grounds should they form their own breakaway league? Will anyone really care bar 'the 6'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by khoop View Post
    A self-proclaimed G6 of southern Irish football clubs - without Shamrock Rovers???

    Oh how we laughed.

    Keep on dreaming, losers.

    In a couple of years when Bohs are STILL in a delapidated Dalymount - Drogheda playing in an empty field in the middle of nowhere - and St. Pats still wondering what the property speculators have planned for Inchicore - Rovers will be wiping the floor with you.
    hey before you start winning leagues (hahaha) remember where youve been for the last 20 years....and drogheda offered u ouor ground when u had nowhere for a licence 2 years ago...(with an attitude like that no wonder you lot are hated)

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    Any chance we can get what was a decent thread back on topic?

    All the Derry board were at the press conference today, which means we weren't represented at this rumoured meeting. You could argue that Jim Roddy is "de facto" representation though......
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