QuoteYeah, you're laugh difference stat is very impressive, laughs at; 85, laughs with; 10.Originally Posted by youngirish
I am also the most humorous person in the history of football forums as you've now seen. My wit is legendary.very good.....
Yeah, you're laugh difference stat is very impressive, laughs at; 85, laughs with; 10.
If that was meant to be a percentage then it doesn't add up.Yeah, you're laugh difference stat is very impressive, laughs at; 85, laughs with; 10.
prone to dodgy mistakes??have to disgree here. Man city's player of the year for the last 2(or is it 3) years? also irelands most consistent peformer apart frm shay over the same period... he is one of the top 3 defenders in he premiership for me.
Disappointing level of debate.
I was hoping to read the classic line
And then challenged on what level he played at the person goes all shy, mumbles something about bad injury, coulda bin a contenda etc, etc...I have played football at a very high level so I know what I'm talking about. Have you? NoThen I'm right! Case closed.
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The Irish players and team ethic has never, and should never be about who and where the players are playing - that is the mistake that England have made for so long. Houghton (Oxford), Aldridge (Oxford), Quinn (Sunderland), Kelly (Wolves) & Cascarino (Millwall) were not playing at the top level during their time with Ireland but were doing a job within a system. It does not matter where they are playing. John O'Shea is playing at top class level for a great team - but does that justify his regular inclusion?
Potter has played above average in a good championship team, who will only get better next year. He was asked to do a job in "one of the most important positions" in Ireland team and did a good job. There is no argument for criticism.
Houghton and Aldridge were playing for Liverpool/Aston Villa/Real Sociedad for the majority of their Ireland caps. All good teams. Not sure which Kelly you refer to if it's David then he was never a regular for Ireland and many of his caps were when he was with West Ham. Never rated Cascerino and when he was a mainstay of the Ireland team we were rubbish anyway.
We shouldn't be relying on average Championship players for an Irish team if we want to qualify for anything. I just don't think Potter's good enough at present and 45 minutes of a good performance against an Ecuador C team wouldn't (and shouldn't) convince me otherwise (fair enough if it was Argentina or Brazil) though as I've stated earlier I would not write him off entirely for the future. He needs to improve. I would be fairly sure Alex Bruce is not up to the task though.
I'm not for selecting our players based on whether they play for a top team either and would well be on for f*cking JOS out of the team. The basic requirements I would use for defining whther a player is good enough for Ireland would be:
1. Performed well in previous Internationals
2. Playing and starting regularly at the top level of football.
3. Performing well for their clubs.
4. If not playing at the top level then has to be good enough for the top level (Potter at present isn't IMO).
Last edited by youngirish; 24/05/2007 at 1:25 PM.
I thought Potter was the best player in the first half and was much better in the 2nd half. He has the technical ability and intelligence to succeed. He's pretty much guaranteed his place in the squad for a while now too.
Being 100% serious here. Do you want to put a bet on Potter being Wolves player (either fans or players' player) of the season next season?
Look at the quality of the opposition though eirebhoy.
I'll take that eirebhoy no problem. I'll send you my account details.Being 100% serious here. Do you want to put a bet on Potter being Wolves player (either fans or players' player) of the season next season?
It'll be either Keogh, Knightly, Matt Murray or someone new they get.
Were did i mention i had a problem with others criticising a football player......
I called you a Hypocrite because you said in your 2nd post ‘Personal abuse allowed is it? Which was aimed at GUFC.
But in your first post you call Alex Bruce a ‘Donkey’ To me that’s personal abuse, Hence me calling you a Hypocrite.
You can’t personally abuse a person and then when someone personally abuses you tell them its not allowed.
Not once in your first post did you mention anything about his footballing ability or lack off.
So how much, it's your choice?
Say a score. I could be dead this time next year. How can we pay? I like to remain anonymonous so I can continue to stay one step ahead of my numerous enemies on these boards. Like Batman.So how much, it's your choice?
OK, done deal.
That's sterling btw not euro (I've said too much already).
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Aint that the truth!!!
The Christy Brown of Irish fans or more likely end up with your foot in your mouth?
As I said before, Alex Bruce isn't much of a player and you don't need to be Einstein to deduce that but he doesn't deserve the sort of abuse you're handing (an expert at handing by your own admission) out.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Get off your high horse Owlsfan, he doesn't read these forums so what he won't know doesn't hurt. He reads foot.co.uk instead. Anyway Glenn Whelan has been more impressive than Darren Potter in the Championship and he wasn't even in the squad so you should at least see my point in stating the obvious that he's not great.The Christy Brown of Irish fans or more likely end up with your foot in your mouth
As I said before, Alex Bruce isn't much of a player and you don't need to be Einstein to deduce that but he doesn't deserve the sort of abuse you're handing (an expert at handing by your own admission) out.
Last edited by youngirish; 24/05/2007 at 12:36 PM.
You're all getting worked up over nothing. It was a meaningless friendly. Alex Bruce is poor. He's playing for a mid table championship team (same one as garvan btw-does he really deserve a look?) and thats his level. If even one player of those new caps comes through to play regularly for us it will be a bonus.
remember mccarthys us cup teams-liam daish, alan moore, dominic foley etc etc. usless.
As regards bruce whoever said paul butler of the squad-spot on. he wont be back dont worry.
Last edited by as_i_say; 24/05/2007 at 12:55 PM.
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youngirish - You always go on about players needing to be playing at the highest level to be truely judged. Here's a quote form Arsene Wenger on 16 year old Carlos Vela:
That's a brave statement."He's top class," I like his intelligence and his pace. He scores goals but he can also create them."
"He's a special talent and I believe 100 per cent that he will make it at the highest level."
I said before if you have the intelligence, technical ability and a good attitude then you're already a player. Potter showed his good range of passing last night and he obviously has a very good football brain. You don't play the holding role at a decent level at 22 without a good football brain. I'd make a judgement on Potter on last nights match alone. He has a very good future imo. Paul McShane has a fantastic future and Stokes will be a very good striker imo. If they have the intelligence then it's so much easier to judge them. I certainly wouldn't write a player off after seeing him just a few times though. You couldn't have seen too much of Potter and Bruce.
Isn't this forum moderated? I thought there might be some insight here, instead of petty bitching. Silly me.
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