New FAI Premier League Invites

**sniffa** · 23/11/2006, 9:01 PM

I can't see Galway or Dundalk being promoted even though it looks like they want Galway up there.
If Galway was elected at the expense of Bray or Waterford or UCD would the demoted club launch a legal challenge?
Would the prospect of the all new bells-and-whistles-supa-dupa-zippitty-dooda-league being delayed with bad press be a deterant to bringing Galway in?
Did the clubs, when agreeing to the takeover of the league, sign away their right to appeal?

**pete** · 23/11/2006, 9:18 PM

Originally Posted by Raheny Red

Kepp voting folks, the FAI will use these results for the forthcoming season!

Can the league "Petes Super FAI League" then.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 23/11/2006, 9:29 PM

Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns

12. UCD / Galway Dundalk / Finn Harps / Athlone

I really think the last spot up for grabs is betwee any number of sides. On the field UCD are miles ahead of any of the current 1st division sides, but it's there off field that they should be concerened about, but IMO they deserve to be there as they are a very good side and are easily one of the best 12 teams in the country. 2 current irish U21 internationals in there ranks says it all really.

How can you say that Bray are guaranteed to be in the Premier next year and then say that UCD aren't? UCD outscore Bray in almost every department.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 23/11/2006, 10:24 PM

Like a 6th place this season for one. Our five year record is better than most of the First Division muck savage clubs,which failed to gain promotion on merit on the field, being touted on grounds of location .

**pete** · 23/11/2006, 10:34 PM

[QUOTE=CollegeTillIDie;580772]Like a 6th place this season for one.
[QUOTE]

I believe your 6th place this year may have ensured your invite. If you finished say 10th would be in real trouble.

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Our five year record is better than most of the First Division muck savage clubs, which failed to gain promotion on merit on the field, being touted on grounds of location .

Careful now. While you look safe no guarantee you won;t be muck savages yourselfs next year.

While there is no promotion-relegation playoff it will be more difficult to remove a club that would have been promoted or would have stayed in Premier if not changes.

**Schumi** · 24/11/2006, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by pete

Careful now. While you look safe no guarantee you won;t be muck savages yourselfs next year.

We'll never be muck savages, we're from Dublin.

**pete** · 24/11/2006, 1:05 PM

Originally Posted by Schumi

We'll never be muck savages, we're from Dublin.

Isn't Belfield in County Dublin or is that Booterstown?

**pineapple stu** · 24/11/2006, 4:38 PM

Belfield is D4. Booterstown is Co Dublin.

**Da Real Rover** · 24/11/2006, 6:35 PM

would love to see dundalk up, great fan base and one of the most illustrious historys in the league, would be a fine addition to the league. UCD will probly be safe and id say shams will go up aswell.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 24/11/2006, 7:27 PM

One thing the FAI have to take on board with this merger and their new Uberliga. As long as real football retains it's basic principle of being a meritocracy it will remain the World's greatest game. Screw with that basic principle and who knows where it could lead?

**pete** · 24/11/2006, 8:44 PM

Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Screw with that basic principle and who knows where it could lead?

This invite is a once off. Eventhough this is not a breakaway those types of leagues typically have an entry criteria. The FAI could just as easily have said you need minimum number of stand seats or terrace. As Belfield only has temporary seating UCD would be excluded. As i've said numerous times before the clubs voted in favour of this process. I believe UCD are safe however being made to sit in the 1st division for one season would have zero impact on you in the long term. You won't lose monye, crowds or players & would most likely get promoted next season anyway.

**Poor Student** · 24/11/2006, 9:12 PM

Pete, it could set the club's progress back a lot. There's a lot of players that may not stick around if we're sent to the First Division. UCD are only getting themselves back in order after the damage of Doolin's reign. It would be an awful kick in the teeth for the club. I am confident we could get back into the Premier but right now we're on the verge of being best of the rest outside of the European places. Our forward momentum of the last three years will be kicked into sharp reverse.

**DmanDmythDledge** · 26/11/2006, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by pete

being made to sit in the 1st division for one season would have zero impact on you in the long term. You won't lose monye, crowds or players & would most likely get promoted next season anyway.

If you look at the attendences thread it is clear that our attendences will be down and we would obviously lose players.

**Superhoops** · 26/11/2006, 10:11 PM

Bray, Waterford and Dundalk.

**Conor H** · 26/11/2006, 10:13 PM

Whoever said Harps will outscore UTD off the field is talking through their arse and they know it.
I reackon the 3 teams will be....
UTD
Waterford
UCD.

I can see us pipping Bray to it if any team.

**Mr A** · 27/11/2006, 1:49 AM

Whoever said Harps will outscore UTD off the field is talking through their arse and they know it.

Galway might well outscore us off the pitch, but I don't think it's anywhere near as clearcut as you seem to think Conor.

On the 10% for Infrastructure 60% is for future plans- and we certainly hold the upper hand there. Of the other 40% most of the marks are for fairly straightforward stuff, but Galway would obviously be somewhat ahead on current facilities.

On the 15% for club licensing- hard to say which way this would go, wouldn't say there'd be much in it though.

15% for strategic planning etc. Both clubs have a clean licensing record, strategic plans and from our problems this season we can certainly show how our financial control and monitoring works. Galway probably present their plans much more slickly, but we can point to a completed five year plan as we move into a new planning cycle. Again probably no clear winner here.

10% for target market, attendances and population density- both have big areas to themselves, Galway have by far the upper hand on crowds this year but Harps probably have better over the past couple of seasons which count too. Again I can't see a really clear winner here.

Of course the IAG may have their own ideas (and anyway assessing this stuff on the basis of a 1 hour presentation is a fooking joke), and be simply ignored by the FAI anyway, but as I read the stuff Conor I don't see quite why you're so dismissive of us.

**Mental Man** · 27/11/2006, 7:41 AM

The IAG has now done the assessment of all the clubs in the country and have brought forward their results to the FAI who will now decide who stays up/down in the respective divisions.
EVERY CLUB agreed to this set-up and no pint in whinging about it now, the only club that didnt agree is the now defunct CHF.
As far as i know the present 11 teams in the premiere will stay but will be joined by Rovers for 2007 season.
But as i said its the FAI will now make the decision.

**Magicme** · 27/11/2006, 8:06 AM

No Mons didnt agree to it and we have no chance of being part of this league unless all the other teams above us go bust.....where did i put the direct line number to the collector general??

**Dodge** · 27/11/2006, 8:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mental Man

EVERY CLUB agreed to this set-up and no pint in whinging about it now, the only club that didnt agree is the now defunct CHF.
As far as i know the present 11 teams in the premiere will stay but will be joined by Rovers for 2007 season.
But as i said its the FAI will now make the decision.

No fans agreed to this set up and some of us have every right to whinge. It'll be neither Harps nor Galway btw, with Bray talking the last spot