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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicme View Post
    Yeah call it the FAI Con...for short....feckin hate thoughts of havin to get tongue around an Irish name. We are not the GAH.
    Magicme - the GAA does not own the Irish language. Nor does any other sporting or political group in Irish society.

    Irish was around for centuries before the GAA, and will hopefully be around for centuries more to come. Heaven forbid that any Irish institution might think of using a name in the Irish langauge......

    Do you struggle to get your tongue round Irish names like ' Taioseach/Tanaiste' , 'Garda Siochana', 'Bord Failte', 'Iarnrod Eireann' , 'Fianna Fail', Fianna Gael', 'Luas', 'Baile Atha Cliath' , 'Eire' , 'Dail' etc etc etc etc.........?

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    Fair enough Steve. I just hate the whole parocial feelin of the GAA & how backwards they r & tbh feel that if we use an Irish phrase to name the league that we are putting ourselves very much into our parish instead of venturing out into the big bad world of International football. I would love if I could speak Irish but I dont and dont see why just coz we are Irish we should have a gaelige name for the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Student View Post
    Genesis did 'research' and you should see the names they came out with.
    They'd hardly use a foot.ie thread as the basis for anything...

    Presumably you'd want a top marketing and/or advertising firm to be coming up with suggestions, along with the campaign to go with the relaunch. Then's the time to come to the fans too see what they think.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    They'd hardly use a foot.ie thread as the basis for anything...
    Oh, no. They'd never do anything like that. Certainly not for attendance figures. What's that? They did?

    Quote Originally Posted by Macy
    Presumably you'd want a top marketing and/or advertising firm to be coming up with suggestions, along with the campaign to go with the relaunch. Then's the time to come to the fans too see what they think.
    Genesis are a ... marketing firm. (I refuse to comment on their status as such, but I have a low opinion of marketing to begin with.) They came up with utter ****e as potential names. Their suggestions have been mocked repeatedly on this site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    Genesis are a ... marketing firm. (I refuse to comment on their status as such, but I have a low opinion of marketing to begin with.) They came up with utter ****e as potential names. Their suggestions have been mocked repeatedly on this site.
    Seriously? So the whole future of the football in this country has been decided by a marketing firm, whose best effort was to come up with "the premiership". DELANEY OUT NOW.
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Seriously? So the whole future of the football in this country has been decided by a marketing firm, whose best effort was to come up with "the premiership". DELANEY OUT NOW.
    Sorry, management consulting - frankly, in the same boat as marketing in my book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Seriously? So the whole future of the football in this country has been decided by a marketing firm, whose best effort was to come up with "the premiership". DELANEY OUT NOW.
    Can't even remember if they even came up with The Premiership. The eircom Super Professional League was one though. A league like that's got to be Super...and Professional...

    It's not ideal - not pretending it is. But hey, if one spark comes from all the eL fans, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    The Irish word for 'league' is 'conradh' : though that has taken on more of a political meaning over the last century. I assume by 'Leig' you were trying to come up with an Irish version of an English word ?
    TG4 use the word 'Sraith'

    An Sraith Eircom??

    I just looked it up on a translator site, Sraith = Series.

    I think it's a better word than conradh, so why not stick with it.
    Last edited by sullanefc; 22/08/2006 at 2:25 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Magicme - the GAA does not own the Irish language. Nor does any other sporting or political group in Irish society.

    Irish was around for centuries before the GAA, and will hopefully be around for centuries more to come. Heaven forbid that any Irish institution might think of using a name in the Irish langauge......

    Do you struggle to get your tongue round Irish names like ' Taioseach/Tanaiste' , 'Garda Siochana', 'Bord Failte', 'Iarnrod Eireann' , 'Fianna Fail', Fianna Gael', 'Luas', 'Baile Atha Cliath' , 'Eire' , 'Dail' etc etc etc etc.........?
    Well said. This is an Irish league, and an Irish name should be considered at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Purple Headed Warriors - played against them myself back in the day. A 3-3 draw and I had a shocker. Cost us second place in the league. We equalised at one stage and I (in nets) ran the length of the pitch to celebrate and tell yer man what his name was. Ah, memories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BohsPartisan View Post
    I made a couple of substitute appearances for "Our lads are hard" back in 1999/2000. Can't believe they still exist.
    Er, that's the 99/00 table. I don't think they're still about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Very Freudian Merc - Leig means 'neglect/ruin/decay' in Irish.

    'The FAI Neglect, Division 1'. It's perfect..... :

    The Irish word for 'league' is 'conradh' : though that has taken on more of a political meaning over the last century. I assume by 'Leig' you were trying to come up with an Irish version of an English word ?
    ive defo heard RnaG folk use Léig na h-Eireann...and i think ti would work a lot better than Conradh or Sraith.

    Conradh, as in Conradh na gaeilge, does have that political feel, it also means contract which, we know, is a no-no in this league and unenforcable.

    Sraith is just too hard for most people to say, for some reaason, and doesnt look good.

    hence the Léig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicme View Post
    Fair enough Steve. I just hate the whole parocial feelin of the GAA & how backwards they r & tbh feel that if we use an Irish phrase to name the league that we are putting ourselves very much into our parish instead of venturing out into the big bad world of International football. I would love if I could speak Irish but I dont and dont see why just coz we are Irish we should have a gaelige name for the league.
    GAA backward?? have you been to Croker or any provincial stadium?

    now have you been to any of the wonderful arena we have in the eL

    you're not just one of those Irish folk carrying the weight of post colonial blues with regard to our own language are you?
    that is so sad.

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    I don't think an Irish name should be considered because most people in this country hate the language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merc67 View Post
    Sraith is just too hard for most people to say, for some reaason, and doesnt look good.
    Sh-rah. Not that hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Merc67 View Post
    hence the Léig.
    Leig sounds made up. I don't think it's an actual irish word.

    Edit: It is an actual irish word. It was posted above. I've also looked it up here. Means something completely different:

    vi: (fade) dul i léig: to peter out

    vi síothlaigh, téigh i léig die away;

    dul i léig, dul as feidhm: to fall into disuse;
    Last edited by sullanefc; 22/08/2006 at 9:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge View Post
    I don't think an Irish name should be considered because most people in this country hate the language.
    That's nonsense. Maybe a lot of schoolgoers like yourself hate it, butthere is certainly no particular dislike of the language in Ireland. Most people I know who took the "hating Irish" attitude in school are now p!ssed off they don't have more of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    That's nonsense. Maybe a lot of schoolgoers like yourself hate it, butthere is certainly no particular dislike of the language in Ireland. Most people I know who took the "hating Irish" attitude in school are now p!ssed off they don't have more of it.
    OK you're right that my opinion has been swaded by my age but seeing that the FAI is trying to re-launch the league and with the new name being part of that launch it has to be taken into consideration in trying to attract new fans to the league. The best market to target is young people before they get to attatched to English teams so I think it would be better for the name to be in English.

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    Young people before they get attached to the English league are far too young to have an emotion about an Irish name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Young people before they get attached to the English league are far too young to have an emotion about an Irish name.
    Good point.

    Also - it's ridiculous to suggest that a name in Irish would be the breaking or saving of our league on it's own

    The GAA liberally sprinkle Irish around, and look at the crowds they get....!

    I doub the FAI would give serious consideration to a nme in Irish, but I'd personally still like to see at least one suggested.

    If only we could agree on what was the most appropriate wording to use (bloody languages.... 0

    I still like 'Craobh na h'Eireann' and 'An Craobh' - as in The Irish Championship. Easy to prounce, and sounds half decent. An Craobh (pronounced : 'an creev') is a decent shorthand name I think.

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