Booing your national team is disgraceful and walking out early is disgraceful.
If someone wants to protest against the team don't bother attending.If the seats are empty they will still get the message soon enough.
Otherwise those going to the games should get behind the team.It easy to support a winning team but the true supporters shine through when things get rough.
This crap that the players would get much worse at their clubs is nonsense.This isnt a club, this is your country, our country.Anyone who would boo their own country should be ashamed.
"Best supporters on the world" my arse. Sunshine supporters more like.
While I didn't boo, i can totally understand it. I paid 108 Euro for 3 west stand tickets for me and 2 of my nippers, and was served up that drivel. Sometimes we can seen as been to laise faire, too nice, for the money we are paying to watch this meaningless ****e, we are entitled to a lot more.
10 minutes into the 2nd half my 5 year old son turns to me and says 'Daddy, why don't Ireland score'. 'Because we're ****e son, because we're ****e'..
I didnt boo and I didnt leave early but if people pay for the ticket they can do what they want. And I couldnt really argue with anyone to stay and watch what was pure rubbish. If the players arent going to try in freindlies why should we?
I dont understand why robben was bein booed to be honest. maybe the dutch supporters started it. they seemed to be singing a few strange ones.
If the team is playing gack and they see the supporters are still getting behind them then maybe it will inspire them to get the finger out.
Booing the team helps nobody.
It wasnt that they were just playing badly it was fact that they werent playing at all.....they didnt seem to know what to do or how to go about doing it. People boo the team; its stupid but people can do what the hell they want. apart from run onto the pitch. anyone who does that should be put back into one of the terraces so everyone can kick the crap out of them. *****s
Originally Posted by John83
Agreed there has to be some level of performance and players playing for their country cannot be immune to the vocals if they deserve it and by God that was woeful stuff the other night . Its because we go to all games incl. friendlies that entitles you more than the next man to be able to criticise .
I'd say the booing thing was about the diving but still leave the club stuff for the weekend not internationals some of the singing outside Rumms was out of place to say the least - thought I was in England at a prem game
Aye, but is it sectarian? You see, if you boo a Rangers/ex Rangers player then its 'sectarian' if you boo a EPL star its 'pathetic club rivalry'.
I don't do either, but I find the distinction pretty annoying.
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Since they don't try.Since when do we boo our own team??
Is calling the Rangers player an 'Orange Ba$tard' (as happened on more than one occasion) sectarian?
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Is calling the steward an orange b*stard sectarian??
Is calling a dutch fan of dubious parentage an oranje b*stard sectarian???
Am confused....
That's verbal abuse and not the booing that Junior was referring to.
It's ignorant to be throwing the word sectarian around to describe the booing of a rangers, ex rangers, or even mistaken identity rangers player.
Its stupidly partisan, not sectarian, not any worse than the farcical booing of Jaap Stam. For what was Jaap booed? his then dubious literary merits not being appreciated by his club manager?
It came from people who were booing the players because of their Rangers connection so it's pretty clear that the same reasoning applied to both.
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
sometimes I just boo cause its the only chant I know all the words to....
You call the abuse as you were there and you heard it.
If a few idiots shouts out that Stam is this and that, doesn't change the reason why others booed him at that time.
I certainly thought they tried. Kavanagh and Reid put themselves about at every opportunity in the centre (they had no organisation. Kavanagh tried a few long balls, Reid hardly got a touch of the ball). Kilbane will always give his all. McGeady was quiet in the first half but came into it in the 2nd. Elliott ran his socks off for the 90 minutes. Morrison was Morrison. Miller, Douglas, Doye and O'Brien gave it their all when they came on. The defence was a shambles but that's to be expected looking at the teamsheet before the game. They didn't lack any heart, they just couldn't spring a couple of passes together.
There was plenty of boo's at half time, not so much at full time. If the players deserved to be booed then so do the fans. It's embarassing trying to get songs going on the terraces and you find out there's about 3 people around you joining in. The Dutch had a great laugh at us. "where are the boys in green?"... I tried to start off "come on you boys..." to drown them out but it just proved their point as hardly anyone would sing. Why is their no problem with fans signing away from home but their afraid to open their mouth in Lansdowne?
I agree with you regarding the fans but I do think that when we were in Holland for the 1-0 friendly that we were the noisier fans and sang more than they did. 2 things aways tend to sing more as they are on holiday mode and also when you are winning its more likely that the fans will sing. Not excusing lack of singing but just trying to suggest a reason.
In Trap we trust
Thanks geysir, It was the booing I was referring to.
Shumi, for the 1% of boo'er's that shouted terms such as 'Orange Ba$tard' I wouldn't say they were sectarian, no. This is obviously a derogatory term aimed at an organisation that is openly sectarian by its nature and exists solely to promote this.
Is it abusive and ignorant? then yes I believe it is, seeing as the player the abuse was aimed at, probably had no connection with the Orange Order anyway!!
This is in my opinion, if you disagree then thats fine you can call the one or two abusive fans what you want, I just don't like the generic term of 'sectarian' being applied to all Celtic fans booing Rangers/Ex Rangers players (rightly or wrongly at an Ireland match) whilst EPL booing is just 'petty club rivalry'.
I know this off topic so apologies, it just gets my goat a bit.
I wouldn't boo the Irish team, I generally shout encouragement or let off the odd howl of disapproval if players are making basic errors. But generally I leave my hanging, drawing and quartering till the pub after the game
I thought you were off the drink Ronnie?
"No, I drink to help me mind my own business....can I get you one? (c) Ronnie Drew
Yes they are but dont pretend to be a supporter while doing it.
"Main Entry: sup·port·er
Pronunciation: s&-'por-t&r
Function: noun
: one that supports or acts as a support : "
Nothing supportive about booing your own team
I've nothing against people that don't sing as most are just too shy. The thing is, not one song went around Lansdowne in the first half that I can remember. If you're not going to boost players confidence and adrenaline with a bit of singing then I don't think you have to right to lower their confidence by booing them. There are times when it's fine to boo a team (Both Kerr and McCarthy's last matches against the Swiss for example) but to boo a team that just wasn't good enough is ridiculous.
is your position so weak that you cannot answer the question put to you?
I dont care what they get at their clubs but i understand you may have a need to mimic the behavour of those fans, just dont pretend to be an ROI supporter whilst doing it. I really dont know what OLE OLE or plastic hammer wavers have to do with my reply to the post.
I ask again, needed by whom and for what purpose?
ole ole ole ole
every single one of those players would have gotten far worse if they had turned in that 'performance' for their clubs.
its not about the result, but the performance. and people who pay in are entitled to be angry at that
the irish crowd are far to passive when served up that drivel for €42 a seat. they should have been slaughterd for that. but they know there are plastic hammer wavers who will cheer like leprechauns regardless of how pathetic the display.
Think you hit the nail on the head there.
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