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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    The police need to take this out of everyone's hands. how can they guarantee the Isrealis players and staff safety (btw im assuming their fans will be banned , if not Someone could lose their life) if Hungary are happy to have us back! , lets play both games home and away in Budapest
    How can they guarantee their safery? What a wonderful country we have become.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Why? what kind of spin are genocide denying types likely to put on the size of the crowd i wonder ?
    What spin would you pit on it?All i said was it would be interesting?

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    I'd imagine their strikes on Iran today will put paid to any likelihood of Tel Aviv hosting matches at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I meant more around the Israeli team hotel etc
    I've a feeling they will be accommodated somewhere other than a hotel. Though you are right to suspect that any protest/actions are more likely to be outside of the ground and me more 'creative' in the lead up to the game, as all will be on their toes for inside the ground, even if any fans are allowed to attend.

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    Israel could well base themselves in the UK and just travel in and out on the same day for the game. Really not much different to English clubs flying to domestic away games. Morning flight in, early kickoff and fly out straight after.

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    Is there not a rule that you have to be in the country 24 hours before the match?

    There is in UEFA club games. Don't see why it'd be different for an international

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    If there is, they'll probably howl antisemitism at it until its bent so suit them.

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    Probably slightly off topic but how does Iran play in the world cup now? Mad situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plib View Post
    Probably slightly off topic but how does Iran play in the world cup now? Mad situation
    Iran? Surely you mean the USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plib View Post
    Probably slightly off topic but how does Iran play in the world cup now? Mad situation
    Being reported now that the Ayatollah has been killed by the airstrikes. That'll keep things fairly tense in that neck of the woods if true.

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    We are in a situation where many international fixtures are up in the air this year.

    Hard to know what will happen with WC

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    Cant see Iran playing in the World cup at this stage.If the current clerical nutters are still in place theres no way they could send a team to the US after Khameni was blown to pieces.maybe if there is a new regime

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Is there not a rule that you have to be in the country 24 hours before the match?

    There is in UEFA club games. Don't see why it'd be different for an international
    Yes, the 24 hour rule applies. Remember that game at Windsor in 1993? Jack Charlton demanded that his team be permitted to stay just across the border (the Slieve Russell in Cavan, maybe?) and travel in-and-out of Belfast on the day. And when that was refused, he asked that the game be played in GB instead (Anfield, I think?)
    Last edited by EalingGreen; 01/03/2026 at 6:19 PM.

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    I can't find this 24 hour rule anywhere. Does anyone have a link

    If it's just for media duty an exemption will be offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I can't find this 24 hour rule anywhere. Does anyone have a link

    If it's just for media duty an exemption will be offered.
    Quick google, rules for the 2012 Euro's - presume it hasn't changed since then:

    (My bold)
    Arrival of the teams at the match venue
    11.07 The associations must arrange for their teams to arrive at the match venue early
    enough in order to be able to hold their pre-match press conference before the
    media deadlines of both involved countries and in any case no later than 24 hours
    before kick-off.

    Page 19 - https://es.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...6_DOWNLOAD.pdf

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    thanks for that EalingI would say an exemption on this, which is just for media duties will be obtained

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    thanks for that EalingI would say an exemption on this, which is just for media duties will be obtained
    Don't agree. For the "in any case" clearly demonstrates that quite aside from the media stuff etc, the 24 hours minimum applies in every case.

    Which makes sense, if you think about it, since if it's not "safe", or is in some other way undesirable to be in a country the day before, how could it be guaranteed to be safe/desirable on the day itself?

    While there is also the practicality to consider i.e. what if a team hoping to travel in on the day should get unexpectedly delayed? Back in December 1957, NI had a vital World Cup qualifier vs Italy* due to be played in Belfast. But the Hungarian match referee/linesmen were stuck in fog in London, so were unable to travel and the game had to be downgraded to a friendly, with local IL officials instead. So doubtless the same applies to teams as officials etc.

    * - Btw, I just thought I'd add that NI won the replayed qualifier, went to the World Cup Finals instead of Italy and got to the Quarter Finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EalingGreen View Post
    Don't agree. For the "in any case" clearly demonstrates that quite aside from the media stuff etc, the 24 hours minimum applies in every case.

    Which makes sense, if you think about it, since if it's not "safe", or is in some other way undesirable to be in a country the day before, how could it be guaranteed to be safe/desirable on the day itself?

    While there is also the practicality to consider i.e. what if a team hoping to travel in on the day should get unexpectedly delayed? Back in December 1957, NI had a vital World Cup qualifier vs Italy* due to be played in Belfast. But the Hungarian match referee/linesmen were stuck in fog in London, so were unable to travel and the game had to be downgraded to a friendly, with local IL officials instead. So doubtless the same applies to teams as officials etc.

    * - Btw, I just thought I'd add that NI won the replayed qualifier, went to the World Cup Finals instead of Italy and got to the Quarter Finals.
    I'm pretty sure the stadium will have all the security checks and balances in place.

    It's the team hotel and that 24 hours before KO when it could get messy. Again I'm just assuming their fans won't be allowed near this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    It's the team hotel and that 24 hours before KO when it could get messy.
    Yeah, but UEFA simply cannot take a chance on travel into Dublin on the day not being disrupted - eg bad weather, plane breakdown, airport disruption, ATC, security alert etc.

    Of course these things can happen the day before too, but at least there you have some chance of adopting a Plan B in time to make kick-off.

    There will be no derogation on this particular aspect of the arrangements, I'm sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Again I'm just assuming their fans won't be allowed near this game.
    You might be right on that one - would certainly make the Gardai's job easier. Though as against that, it would be a big revenue hit for the FAI, whilst also forfeiting a great deal of "home" advantage.

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    are we really saying that our "fans" cant be trusted to behave themselves without a stadium ban or a heavy Garda pressence.That goes against a long tradition of Irish fans not causing trouble....Whatever your opinion on whether the game should go ahead or not i dont believe the vast majority of irish fans cant be trusted to behave themsselves and banning them on that basis is completly wrong.I honestly think if the game goes ahead it will go ahead to a normal size irish crowd and people can be trusted to limitiing themselves to verbally making their opinions heard whatever they are.We are not a bunch of ENGERLAND fans

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