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    Quote Originally Posted by Demesne Lad View Post
    France to Trump: EU won’t let you invade Greenland – POLITICO

    Anyone remember playing 'Risk' years ago, when games were played on a table, with real, physical dice, markers, etc.?
    Does he think Greenland is in the EU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    ...And apparently military force will be used to remove the Chinese from Panama because according to Trump they have no business running the Canal when it was something built for the Panamanians by America.
    China does not run the canal; they run two of five nearby ports. https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/g...ts/ar-AA1wv7Sm
    The US finished the canal for their own profit, taking over a bankrupt French effort and leasing the land from the Panamans after a naval blocade to assist the Panamans in splitting from a Colombia weakened by a recent civil war. Like most US interventions in the Americas in particular, it was driven by self-interest above all else.
    If the US was worried about Chinese influence in the region, they could invest there themselves, but Trump doesn't like paying for things he takes.

    Greenland's days are numbered apparently. There will be a three way struggle over that land because China, who already possesses the lions share of precious minerals in the world, is looking to annex Greenland as well. And Russia also needs those minerals. That would leave America completely dependent on China for many things we use in our daily lives today.
    That is what is being reported this morning for what it's worth.
    If only there were some kind of mutual defence treaty organisation. They could name it after the North Atlantic or something.
    The US already has a base in Greenland, though I can't imagine they'll continue to be welcome there at this rate.

    It's becoming clear why so many Americans are unconcerned with Trump's ties to and admiration of Putin, and criticised the support of Ukraine. They're exactly the same kind of blood-thirsty expansionist *******s. Trump seems determined to have a river of blood named after him, if this isn't all bull**** to distract from the grief he was getting over openly supporting immigation.

    If the Chinese invest in an area on favourable terms, and the US invades to take it, consider how much propaganda you have to be swallowing to consider the Chinese the bad guys.
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    A whole load of fact checking here
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/07/p...ada/index.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    CNN ~ LOL's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    CNN ~ LOL's.
    That exactly right - lots of legitimate concerns
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demesne Lad View Post
    France to Trump: EU won’t let you invade Greenland – POLITICO

    Anyone remember playing 'Risk' years ago, when games were played on a table, with real, physical dice, markers, etc.?
    Not very helpful from Macron. How about saying something like: "Europe will stand with America to protect Greenland from Chinese and Russian expansionism. "

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    How about something like "I'd probably invade a country if I was under investigation for tax evasion there too"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Not very helpful from Macron. How about saying something like: "Europe will stand with America to protect Greenland from Chinese and Russian expansionism. "
    Who'll protect Greenland from American expansionism though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    Not very helpful from Macron. How about saying something like: "Europe will stand with America to protect Greenland from Chinese and Russian expansionism. "
    Talk is cheap. Ukraine needs help now and Trump wants them to negotiate giving up half their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Who'll protect Greenland from American expansionism though?
    So Russia is in Ukraine and China is elbowing its way into Taiwan, or soon will be. But somehow it's America the bad guy for trying to prevent further Chinese and Russian expansionism in Greenland? Did not Europe call for America 's intervention in the Ukraine war? So it's come to help us when we are in need but we don't trust you enough to head off problems in your own area.

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    Are Russia or China currently bombarding Greenland?
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    Today in MAGA world it was Hezbollah who were involved in January 6th !
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post


    Today in MAGA world it was Hezbollah who were involved in January 6th !
    Should the FBI agent provocateurs be prosecuted ? !

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Should the FBI agent provocateurs be prosecuted ? !
    Absolutely Sean,I’ve heard Greenlandic Inuit were involved aswell so hopefully they’ll look into that too !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Should the FBI agent provocateurs be prosecuted ? !
    Are these agents from the FBI agent-provaocateurs? Does that make them double agents?
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    Ok, I'll put it another way ~ If there was agents from the FBI and they were agent-provocateurs ~ Should they be prosecuted ?

    I suggest people should play the long game on this !

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Are these agents from the FBI agent-provaocateurs? Does that make them double agents?
    Perhaps the FBI works in mysterious ways ~ ~ After-all a lot of what the FBI do is secret.

    Do you have much knowledge about how the British intelligence agencies worked in Northern Ireland for example ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    But somehow it's America the bad guy for trying to prevent further Chinese and Russian expansionism in Greenland? .
    What Russian/Chinese expansionism into Greenland?

    Trump is the only one talking about any expansionist stuff with regards Greenland as far as I can see

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Ok, I'll put it another way ~ If there was agents from the FBI and they were agent-provocateurs ~ Should they be prosecuted ?

    I suggest people should play the long game on this !
    Gotcha, like in golf

    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    Perhaps the FBI works in mysterious ways ~ ~ After-all a lot of what the FBI do is secret.

    Do you have much knowledge about how the British intelligence agencies worked in Northern Ireland for example ?
    I do know that whatever British intelligence did in Northern Ireland, it has nothing to do with what happened in Washington DC on 6th January 2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    What Russian/Chinese expansionism into Greenland?

    Trump is the only one talking about any expansionist stuff with regards Greenland as far as I can see
    My take on it Stu, is that I want Greenland to remain the property of the people of Greenland (Inuits). Granted they are governed by Denmark and many of them don't apparently like their fate in the hands of the Danish government, but so be it. What I don't want to happen is that we wake up one morning and there are platoons of Russian and Chinese soldiers doing joint maneuvers in northern Greenland. It will be too late to get them out of there at that point. Trump obviously has information that you and I don't.

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