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    That statement was obviously very necessary with the rumours but the part about the next 24 hours being crucial to survival does give the vibe that there is impending doom. This has to be the quickest turnaround from new owner/fresh start to missing payments and going bust. Even Bray lasted longer and spawned one of the better lines with comparing Wicklow to North Korea.

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    John Fallon seems to have had a couple of exclusives re: Dundalk this season and he's subsequently posted a story that indicates the club are more likely to be wound up than rescued. Hopefully something miraculous can occur in the next 24 hours.

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    Hard not to feel extremely bitter.

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    Assume if they did go under another team would just reform in division 1 next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah View Post
    Assume if they did go under another team would just reform in division 1 next season?
    Very difficult to get everything organised in time for licensing for next year. Maybe the following year might be doable.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    Very difficult to get everything organised in time for licensing for next year. Maybe the following year might be doable.
    We did it very quickly, though we had plenty of political backing, and John Delaney publicly announced after meeting the mayor that we'd have a team in the league the next year.
    If someone or some group were able to get themselves organised, it's entirely possible.

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    Club spends money it can't generate..finishes higher or European place...costs genuine clubs positions and managers jobs...eventually **** hits the fan and league in chaos...absolute ****show....I called it here months ago they needed to accept they're not big anymore...didn't go down well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah View Post
    Assume if they did go under another team would just reform in division 1 next season?
    As stated above, hard to see them getting all the licensing stuff sorted in such a short space, not to mention the question of Oriel Park, would the pitch in it's current state even receive a FD license. It's absolutely sickening

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    As stated above, hard to see them getting all the licensing stuff sorted in such a short space, not to mention the question of Oriel Park, would the pitch in it's current state even receive a FD license. It's absolutely sickening
    Good point, even for Dundalk in its current guise to receive a licence to play at Oriel next season, I believe a new pitch and floodlight work has to be completed before next season. They were given the ok for a government grant for those works I believe but if the club is wound up I’d imagine any new club that the supporters set up would have to apply separately for another grant. A total mess of a situation
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    While I do feel bad for the fans, to a degree, it's possibly the biggest example of gross negligence in the running of an LOI club I can think if. About €10m in european prize money over a few seasons and it's hard to see exactly what infrastructure projects were undertaken to push the club forward in a sustainable manner. From my brief research, it seems money was spent on the YDC in 2010, pre the european run, and then a new pitch was installed in 2017 replacing the old pitch (good job btw, Oriel now has a notoriously amazing pitch that receives many plaudits) and some more money was spent in 2019 upgrading the YDC again. The total cost of those two projects cost about €800k. So approximately 8% of a huge windfall was spent of infrastructure while Oriel Park remains an absolute disgrace. I hope the government spend their windfall a little better than Dundalk spent theirs.

    Why so many transfers in July? Why not try sell a few players? Why the contract extension for Horgan?


    I honestly can't see any investor in their right mind put any money at all in to this dumpster fire. Hopefully the club can reform and rebuild. It's a shame it's happened to Dundalk because of their rich LOI history but I hope this serves as a cautionary tale for other LOI clubs thinking of outside investment.

    I see here, only 360k is needed to keep the club afloat for the season. The players (very soundly) are willing to write off two weeks wages brining the total down to 320k.
    https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soc...paign=sharebar

    Give the Mary Wallopers a bell, beg them to do a gig for free (ala Johnny Logan for Bohs) charge 100 quid a ticket and go from there.
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    Surely if they do die the league has to accept the phoenix club into div 1? The club will eventually come back but I’d say the 1903 will garner enough support to have a d1 club. It’s not like there’s a queue of clubs to fill,the void. And the whole pyramid is stronger with Dundalk in.

    but why would an “investor” take on 2m of Debt rather than let the club die and take for nothing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ger121 View Post
    How the **** was a guy with finances that bad ever allowed to take over not one but two clubs. The FAI have an awful lot to answer for here too.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...medium=twitter

    Your answer is there,they didn’t even bother checking due to a “loophole “,another episode from the FAI of the laughing stock genre……
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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    We did it very quickly, though we had plenty of political backing, and John Delaney publicly announced after meeting the mayor that we'd have a team in the league the next year.
    If someone or some group were able to get themselves organised, it's entirely possible.
    I'm open to correction but I think the deadlines are earlier now. The licences were announced in November last year.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Plenty of people delighted Dundalk is gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knocklyonhoop View Post
    Surely if they do die the league has to accept the phoenix club into div 1?
    It's what happened with Cork, Derry, Wexford and Waterford. One of the bigger joke elements in the LoI. Get your debt written off and all you have to do is take a year or two in the First Division (which was probably coming your way anyway) and accept a three-year Euro ban.

    I can't see them going to the wall quite that quickly though. It's in nobody's interest; it's a sure-fire way of not being paid

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I can't see them going to the wall quite that quickly though. It's in nobody's interest; it's a sure-fire way of not being paid
    Hmmm. The Mirror seem to disagree anyway. Prize money already paid too

    Dundalk FC could cease to exist by 5pm today, unless a white knight rides in to save the 121-year-old club. But the likelihood of that happening is growing slimmer by the hour

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa View Post
    Plenty of people delighted Dundalk is gone.
    I don't think so. But there will be little sympathy for a club who buried its head in the sand, especially after they had to 'save the club' in 2013. No lessons were learned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redobit View Post
    I don't think so. But there will be little sympathy for a club who buried its head in the sand, especially after they had to 'save the club' in 2013. No lessons were learned.
    Your sanctimonious nature is really having a field day. "No lessons were learned" like you are some kind of messiah.

    Anyways, Dundalk was never a moneybags story. It's playing budget since 2021 was nothing out of the ordinary for LOI - and even under Kenny, it had a lot of part time players.

    People vastly overestimate what you can do with a couple of million in football. It quickly goes, and all that you are left with vultures. As said, a bit of money went into infrastructure, especially the YDC.

    Dundalk has punched well above its weight in football for a while, and some people are just delighted to have them gone. Especially Sligo fans for some reason.

    Dundalk, for me, was genuinely one of the most special places to be on Friday night - and now it seems to have been taken away.

    Makes myself question my own attitude to other clubs going like Limerick and Cork. But I guess that is lessons learnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiki Balboa View Post
    Your sanctimonious nature is really having a field day. "No lessons were learned" like you are some kind of messiah.

    Anyways, Dundalk was never a moneybags story. It's playing budget since 2021 was nothing out of the ordinary for LOI - and even under Kenny, it had a lot of part time players.

    People vastly overestimate what you can do with a couple of million in football. It quickly goes, and all that you are left with vultures. As said, a bit of money went into infrastructure, especially the YDC.

    Dundalk has punched well above its weight in football for a while, and some people are just delighted to have them gone. Especially Sligo fans for some reason.

    Dundalk, for me, was genuinely one of the most special places to be on Friday night - and now it seems to have been taken away.

    Makes myself question my own attitude to other clubs going like Limerick and Cork. But I guess that is lessons learnt.
    Hardly sanctimonious to say your club was in this situation before, had a lucky escape & good turn of fortune and did very little to safeguard against this happening again. Don't need to be mystic meg to see that this was a possibility with the amount of ownership change in recent years and BA's knee jerk decision to buy the club while jumping ship from another project. The speed at which it has happened is the only real surprise here. I would've thought you would make it to at least July next year.

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