FAI Cup games

[Ezeikial]

No issue with a club with the most cup wins and 3 in a row in the 80's being called cup kings or the like but hardly specialists over 32 years with a single LC since '87.

To be fair there are also a couple of Setantas and 3 Leinster Senior Cups since 1987

[sbgawa]

Johnny Mc talking about a joint stadium between Dundalk in Drogheda in Ardee (off the M1??!) is a good example of the type of lazy or daft comment - he should know better...Ardee isnt off the M1. No issue with a club with the most cup wins and 3 in a row in the 80's being called cup kings or the like but hardly specialists over 32 years with a single LC since '87. Derry would be more 'specialists'! i'm sure there will be plenty of it in the weeks ahead.

The trouble with you youngsters is you think anything that happened pre 80's is like world war two era

[Sonny]

Johnny Mc talking about a joint stadium between Dundalk in Drogheda in Ardee (off the M1??!) is a good example of the type of lazy or daft comment - he should know better...Ardee isnt off the M1. No issue with a club with the most cup wins and 3 in a row in the 80's being called cup kings or the like but hardly specialists over 32 years with a single LC since '87. Derry would be more 'specialists'! i'm sure there will be plenty of it in the weeks ahead.

You can add in six in a row in the 60s. Regardless, I sincerely doubt anyone who gets wound up by the media using the term 'cup specialists' would be any more pleased with the term 'cup kings' and you'd have the exact same whinging about the time since Rovers last won it.

I really don't understand what winds people up so much. Rovers have won the competition 24 times - more than double the number of times of any other club. For that reason there is an association between Rovers and the cup and journalists/commentators/pundits highlight that. They just as frequently highlight the fact that it's been 32 years since the last one. Just get over it.

[EatYerGreens]

You can add in six in a row in the 60s. Regardless, I sincerely doubt anyone who gets wound up by the media using the term 'cup specialists' would be any more pleased with the term 'cup kings' and you'd have the exact same whinging about the time since Rovers last won it.

I really don't understand what winds people up so much. Rovers have won the competition 24 times - more than double the number of times of any other club. For that reason there is an association between Rovers and the cup and journalists/commentators/pundits highlight that. They just as frequently highlight the fact that it's been 32 years since the last one. Just get over it.

Let's all settle on the term 'past-masters' to describe Rovers and the Cup then

#YesterdaysMen

[Nesta99]

To be fair there are also a couple of Setantas and 3 Leinster Senior Cups since 1987

Completely remiss of me, especially on the LSC wins! Wouldnt have minded nabbing a Setanta Cup especially after the deluge v Sligo. Can set that straight in some way in the current version of a cross border competition in November.

The trouble with you youngsters is you think anything that happened pre 80's is like world war two era

Nah not WW2 but definitely Cold War! ;P

You can add in six in a row in the 60s. Regardless, I sincerely doubt anyone who gets wound up by the media using the term 'cup specialists' would be any more pleased with the term 'cup kings' and you'd have the exact same whinging about the time since Rovers last won it.

I really don't understand what winds people up so much. Rovers have won the competition 24 times - more than double the number of times of any other club. For that reason there is an association between Rovers and the cup and journalists/commentators/pundits highlight that. They just as frequently highlight the fact that it's been 32 years since the last one. Just get over it.

Its ok I'm well over it, By 31 years after seeing the most obvious stonewall penalty ever awarded in LoI history! (sorry Derry fans!!).

Let's all settle on the term 'past-masters' to describe Rovers and the Cup then

#YesterdaysMen

Sounds fair and Derry are officially League Cup specialists!

[Sonny]

Let's all settle on the term 'past-masters' to describe Rovers and the Cup then

#YesterdaysMen

Fire away, although I'm not too sure you grasp the meaning of the term past masters!

[Nesta99]

You sure you dont need to get over people not calling Rovers cup kings or cup specialists Sonny?

[redarmyfaction]

for some reason thought the away support was a lot less but still impressive all the same!

That away section only takes about 400.

[Ezeikial]

That away section only takes about 400.

Do you mean that the number of seats or Health & Safety certifications limit it to 400?

Could it be that 600 ticket holders were squashed into an area intended for 400?

[red bellied]

Away section in Showgrounds holds 330 seats plus standing area to side of Jinks avenue. There was just over 500 tickets sold by Dundalk.

[Ezeikial]

Do you mean that the number of seats or Health & Safety certifications limit it to 400?

Could it be that 600 ticket holders were squashed into an area intended for 400?

Away section in Showgrounds holds 330 seats plus standing area to side of Jinks avenue. There was just over 500 tickets sold by Dundalk.

Whether it was 600 people into 400 seats or 500 people into 330 seats it is 3 people for every 2 seats.

It seems a flippant approach to health & safety considerations

[Sonny]

You sure you dont need to get over people not calling Rovers cup kings or cup specialists Sonny?

Not remotely bothered by what anyone calls Rovers, unlike all of the bed wetters who throw the same stampy every single year when it comes to cup time.

[Nesta99]

Whether it was 600 people into 400 seats or 500 people into 330 seats it is 3 people for every 2 seats.

It seems a flippant approach to health & safety considerations

If this was the case then it is certainly wrong on so many levels - I have had the odd rant on overcrowding either due to selling too many tickets, too many people let crowd in to one or more blocks than should be considered safe, insufficient access or egress for numbers in attendance or simply that a safe holding capacity is set too high to be actually safe which thankfully these days a wink and a nod doesnt set a capacity...I hope! I wont repeat the rant but it is a really dodgy risk to take!!

Not remotely bothered by what anyone calls Rovers, unlike all of the bed wetters who throw the same stampy every single year when it comes to cup time.

I havent seen the tantrums you mention - a few scoffs or chuckles maybe!?

[Ezeikial]

Not remotely bothered by what anyone calls Rovers, unlike all of the bed wetters who throw the same stampy every single year when it comes to cup time.

But is this malarkey actually an annual thing?

It has obviously receded over time. Maybe it reaches a crescendo whenever Rovers get to the cup final - 3 finals in the 3 decades tells its own story.

[redarmyfaction]

Whether it was 600 people into 400 seats or 500 people into 330 seats it is 3 people for every 2 seats.

It seems a flippant approach to health & safety considerations

I think he mentioned that there is a standing area adjacent to the seated area to accommodate the other 175. Only 500 tickets were sold by Dundalk according to RB not 600.

[Ezeikial]

I think he mentioned that there is a standing area adjacent to the seated area to accommodate the other 175. Only 500 tickets were sold by Dundalk according to RB not 600.

Based on what the clubs said before the match, 800 tickets were sent and 200 returned

I don't know the exact number of seats or tickets, but I can tell you I was in the away section and it was way overcrowded.

People were forced to stand in each aisle, in the area between the seats and wall (normally not allowed by stewards) and in many cases more people were standing in each row than seat spaces.

[redarmyfaction]

Based on what the clubs said before the match, 800 tickets were sent and 200 returned

I don't know the exact number of seats or tickets, but I can tell you I was in the away section and it was way overcrowded.

People were forced to stand in each aisle, in the area between the seats and wall (normally not allowed by stewards) and in many cases more people were standing in each row than seat spaces.

They weren't obliged to enter the stand, they had the option to stand behind the goal. The same thing happened at the other semi with lots of empty seats in the tramway end of the Jodi and people cramming into the School End of that stand.

If one is going to be concerned at ground safety your only have to look at the Grassy Knoll at Oriel, I wouldn't want to standing on that on wet night wearing a Columbo coat.

[Ezeikial]

If one is going to be concerned at ground safety your only have to look at the Grassy Knoll at Oriel, I wouldn't want to standing on that on wet night wearing a Columbo coat.

They weren't obliged to enter the stand, they had the option to stand behind the goal. The same thing happened at the other semi with lots of empty seats in the tramway end of the Jodi and people cramming into the School End of that stand.

Classic whataboutery - I would not want to stand on the Oriel Park grass area either, with or without a Columbo coat. Similarly I'm not sure how any alleged safety issues around over-crowding in Dalymount is some form of justification for the Showgrounds overcrowding highlighted

Are you seriously suggesting that supporters themselves created the problem by ignoring the direction and stewarding of the AGS and the Sligo Rovers stewards?

[redarmyfaction]

Classic whataboutery - I would not want to stand on the Oriel Park grass area either, with or without a Columbo coat. Similarly I'm not sure how any alleged safety issues around over-crowding in Dalymount is some form of justification for the Showgrounds overcrowding highlighted

Are you seriously suggesting that supporters themselves created the problem by ignoring the direction and stewarding of the AGS and the Sligo Rovers stewards?

Did the stewards force Dundalk supporters into the stand?

[Kingswood Rover]

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