Is it Mike O'Brien who u are referring to that looks at the players??the same man who is the Tipp oscar traynor manager
Who were the players that were capped from St Michaels?
I'm not having a go at the lads that were capped,fair play to them,im sure they deserve it but in fairness how there are no players on it from limerick is a bit of a joke you have to admit
the saints players were
john walshe captain and record caps holder for ireland centre half
paul breen centre half
christopher higgins full back
jimmy carr right side midfield
was at the game and tought all played well but man of the match was ken howie a class act at left full
Yes your right , James is capt john is his older brother who played for saints for years .
As was mentioned earlier I think there is lots if limerick lads that should be playing but there has to be something seriously wrong with the set up when this is this case , any ideas on why this is happening
The Limerick man wont pick them,simple as,it has nothing to do with LDMC,He don't even go to Limerick junior games,Gerry Smyth was down once or twice in about 5 years and O'Brien showed his face those days ok.there are plenty players in limerick who have not played loi and deserve to be on it,but that's the politics for you,does he go to many TSDL games,obviously does once he's OT manager,
Seriously Tipp Top....you are putting up Pa Mullins(prob 25/26 yr old) against James Walshe (35/36) against each other. For me Walshe has been the outstanding centre half in the country for 10 years now. There is no comparison between Mullins at that age and Walshe at the same age. Not alone do they (michaels)consistently keep clean sheets in FAI & Munsters but Walshe contributes prob 20 goals a season if not more to the club and has been doing for all these years. Fair enough he has been beaten in 4/5 FAI finals (while plenty of others have won them) but he (and the defence with him) has been the reason for that team getting to those finals in the first place (he has been the only ever constant in that time which is not just coincidence). They have won 3/4 munsters in that time too so tbh there is no comparison when it really comes down to it. If you go and watch the man it is not just about lumping ball back up and keeping a clean sheet. Presence and the ability at that level to orgainse lads is just as important and there is no one better in the game. Ridiculous argument really.....the man is one of the most capped junior players ever, has the record for most goals in Euro finals and lads come on here saying this lad is better and that lad is better (when they have proved nothin)....they are not better til they prove it really.....its not as if mullins (and many others) have not been given the chance either.This is only my opinion by the way but you can only base things on what lads have achieved against one another.
Didn't Pa Mullins have a spell with UCD anyway so that rules him out of the amateur set up
Mullins did not play senior with Ucd as far as i know, as you said it is simply a matter of opinion, I am certainly not disputing James Walshe should not have been a main stay for the Irish junior side 4 or 5 years ago but there is no doubt Mullins is now a better option, anyone that comes on here and says that "pull" is not involved in these things and the "buddy" system is very very naive, and go bac through my posts i have always been hugely complimentary of James Walshe, my argument is about the here and now and Mullins is the captain of an all conquering Pike side
Tipp top would you not consider Paul Breen a natural successor to James Walshe more so than Pa Mullins. No disrespect to him and I have not seen him play that much but surely Breen is as good if not better. Over the years he has almost 50 junior and amateur caps and is not a regular and is considered only 3rd choice a lot of the time. I would consider him to be a better player than Mullins also. Just because Mullins is captain of a team that wins a lot in limeick does not automatically mean he is deserving of the opportunity. Yes pike have won an fai two years ago but to call them all conquering is a little over the top. All conquering would be to win these comps like FAI's and Munsters on a regular basis - something which has not happened that much recently to be honest. I know it's a question that will rumble on but at the end of the day we can all say this lad doesn't get a chance and that lad doesn't get a chance but really they have.guys like Mullins were trialists 2 years ago in Tipp and did not shine (and plenty more have been capped in this time too)- its upto these players to go and do it on the big stage regularily and not for the lads that are there to step aside and say take my place you deserve it more than me.
Like everything, opinions are personal.. some people think this guy is better than that guy, others will disagree. I would harbour a guess if you asked every single contributor to pick their own home teams best 11, never mind a TSDL best 11, they would all pick a different team.. and magnify that even more with a regional or international team...
So, it more often than not, comes down to a managers choice, and the player in position..
If James Walsh is doing what the manager wants him to do consistently.. then the manager will keep picking him.. no matter what others think
And that's how it should be.. if a player consistently does a job for you.. you reward him with his jersey
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