2012 attendances

**mypost** · 13/08/2012, 6:07 PM

Originally Posted by Spudulika

Why? I'm playing devil's advocate in a sense. If Dundalk (somehow) escape relegation this year I'd hate to think of some other system that would relegate them. Likewise if they won the league (might as well dream awake as asleep) I'd be disgusted if they had to play off for the title. But I don't get the reason why we couldn't have 1 division with 20 clubs, top 8 play off for the title. Right now what we have is not working, how bad would an alternative be - christ, if economics get worse Dundalk might be 8th and get a run to the CL :-)

From 92-94, we had the Top 6 play-off to win the league and the Bottom 6 play-off to be relegated. The top 6 soon developed into a top 2 or 3, while the race to finish 7th was no motivation for those who were not in relegation trouble. It failed.

Originally Posted by JC_GUFC

Only because the rules didn't have any tie-breaking rule in place for teams finishing level on points.

I wouldn't be in favour of a playoff to decide the league but it wouldn't be the worst idea to have one for the Europa League spot. 2 v 5 and 3 v 4 in one-off matches and highest placed qualifier having home advantage for final.

As I said, the league should be decided over how many games are in the regulation season. If you finish 5th as we did in 2007, you finish 5th. There should not be a reward for it, in normal circumstances.

**sullanefc** · 13/08/2012, 8:52 PM

City V Pats - 2159 I think was called out.

**nigel-harps1954** · 13/08/2012, 9:19 PM

3,500 est at Shamrock Rovers v Sligo Rovers according to Extratime.

**nigel-harps1954** · 13/08/2012, 9:23 PM

Originally Posted by sullanefc

City V Pats - 2159 I think was called out.

Same as Extratime have given so I'll take that.

Incidentally, that's Corks worst crowd of the season by almost 300. Monday night obviously didn't suit a lot of people. Average has dipped under 3,000 for the first time this season.

**codology** · 13/08/2012, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

3,500 est at Shamrock Rovers v Sligo Rovers according to Extratime.

Easily 5k at the match.

**redarmyfaction** · 13/08/2012, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Same as Extratime have given so I'll take that.

Incidentally, that's Corks worst crowd of the season by almost 300. Monday night obviously didn't suit a lot of people. Average has dipped under 3,000 for the first time this season.

Seemed to more than 3500 at Tallaght.

On the issue of an issue extended premier league it would be bad news for the better clubs since the shtie teams would remain that way and would push down crowds in the division anyway.

If you you want to rid of of the first division then do so but replace it with 12 or 14 team a Premier league established by election.

**Nah Nah Nah Nah** · 13/08/2012, 10:14 PM

There certainly didn't seem to be two and a half thousand empty seats there

**nigel-harps1954** · 13/08/2012, 10:40 PM

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. Until I can get an official attendance from anyone Shamrock Rovers I'll stick with what Extratime tell me, as per every other clubs attendance figure.

**blue til i die** · 13/08/2012, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Hey, don't shoot the messenger. Until I can get an official attendance from anyone Shamrock Rovers I'll stick with what Extratime tell me, as per every other clubs attendance figure.

Tallaght Stadium is the toughest place to estimate a crowd, way too hard to see how many is in the stand that you're in, so any estimate is unlikely to be very accurate.

**dfx-** · 14/08/2012, 3:57 AM

Just short/just over 5,000 I heard. 3,500 is nonsense.

**passinginterest** · 14/08/2012, 8:22 AM

Originally Posted by dfx-

Just short/just over 5,000 I heard. 3,500 is nonsense.

Definitely around the 5,000 mark. One of the biggest crowds this season. And I arrived just before kick off so got a good look at how full both stands were.

**Bawnville Hoop** · 14/08/2012, 1:02 PM

The clock recorded just over 5,200.
The east stand was full (2 to a seat in 2 sections) and the main stand was jam packed aswell. Sligo had a great crowd alsol.

Extratime report from the Rovers press box where there is a cement wall to each side of you so you can't see the crowd in your stand. I'm starting to think they only estimate what they actually see. 3,500 was right if they just counted the east stand across and the 2 sections they could see in front of them

**Dodge** · 14/08/2012, 1:31 PM

It'd al be sorted if Rovers would give exact figures like others do. No excuse really with all tickets scanned

**Bawnville Hoop** · 14/08/2012, 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dodge

It'd al be sorted if Rovers would give exact figures like others do. No excuse really with all tickets scanned

They have to submit the official attendance the next day to the FAI. Everyone in the press box are given the attendance should they enquire..

**nigel-harps1954** · 14/08/2012, 1:50 PM

Maybe they should just announce the official attendance 5-10 minutes before the end of the game? A nice gesture I always think to thank the fans for their support. Don't know why more clubs don't do it.

**Dodge** · 14/08/2012, 2:32 PM

Originally Posted by Bawnville Hoop

They have to submit the official attendance the next day to the FAI. Everyone in the press box are given the attendance should they enquire..

Thats not true. No journalists has been given an official attendance at Rovers since they moved to tallaght. Several have asked for them

**Acornvilla** · 14/08/2012, 2:34 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Maybe they should just announce the official attendance 5-10 minutes before the end of the game? A nice gesture I always think to thank the fans for their support. Don't know why more clubs don't do it.

Because barely any clubs have an attendance worth mentioning!

**nigel-harps1954** · 14/08/2012, 3:03 PM

Be nice to let people know just how bad it is then!

**Battery Rover** · 14/08/2012, 3:07 PM

Not sure what figure you used for Athlone Town vs Limerick but official attendance was 322

**nigel-harps1954** · 14/08/2012, 3:08 PM

Averages after week 21 - Monday games. (Missing Drogs v Bohs, Bray v Dundalk,) Rectified Shams v Sligo.

PREMIER DIVISION

Bohs - 1546 (2011 - 1,488; 2010- 1,835; 2009 - 2,366; 2008 - 1,993; 2007 - 1,924; 2006 - 1,463; 2005 - 1,976)
Bray - 1000 (1,121; 952; 1,169; 1,106; 1,200; 1,027; 1,550)
Cork - 2986 (2,128 FD; 1,693 FD; 2,681; 3,142; 2,897; 2,941; 3,644)
Derry - 1650 (2,135; 1,965 FD; 2,436; 3,363; 2,614; 3,229; 2,698)
Drogheda - 1012 (811; 859; 1,106; 1,631; 1,919; 1,751; 1,682)
Dundalk - 1088 (1,355; 1,877; 2,371; 1,459 FD; 1,406 FD; 1,078 FD; 474 FD)
Pat's - 1620 (1,346; 1,756; 1,631; 1,795; 1,910; 1,342; 1,599)
Rovers - 3390 (3,779; 3,794; 3,611; 1,468; 1,715; 1,089 FD; 1,539)
Shels - 1309 (781 FD; 737 FD; 972 FD; 986 FD; 888 FD; 1,690; 1,949)
Sligo - 2355 (2,103; 1,807; 1,756; 1,960; 1,448; 1,806; 1,794 FD)
UCD - 566 (558; 610; 272 FD; 546; 663; 546; 653; 306 FD)

FIRST DIVISION

Athlone - 302 (200; 354; 462; 387; 670; 421; 316)
Harps - 422 (433; 644; 480; 1,607 PD; 1,164; 428; 1,347 PD; 1,106) -
Limerick - 675 (569; 598; 429; 517; 670; 364; 669)
Longford - 392 (315; 230; 260; 406; 885 PD; 681 PD; 1,004 PD)
Mervue - 250 (349; 123; 166)
SD Galway - 205 (125; 122 - As Salthill Devon FC)
Waterford - 421 (466; 619; 434; 670; 1,181 PD; 915 PD; 1,513 PD)
Wexford - 339 (216; 343; 494; 767; 810)

PREMIER AVERAGE: 1693
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 376

OVERALL AVERAGE: 1138