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    Saddened to hear this, joined the same time as Newcastle West, lasted a touch longer though. Its those supporters I feel for today.

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    Devastated for the fans, players and volunteers of Monaghan, I'd heard they were in trouble but didn't think it would have the plug pulled so soon without even a consultation with the PFAI, FAI or whoever.
    The whole licensing system shown as a total farce yet again.
    With Dundalk seemingly on their uppers and rumors flying about a couple of others, how long before a one division league? Limerick, Longford,Waterford, Bohs, Bray etc should rethink whatever they were going to do about strengthening in the window to become/stay as a Premier team for next year, because it looks increasingly likely it won't matter a flying f**k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    We don't actually know who the club considered player reps, and whether it included the players PFAI rep(s) - could be any of the players, and wouldn't be the first time an employer has pulled such a trick. btw it's fairly obvious they aren't going to honour player contracts - if they were they might as well see out the season, but good work (for once) of the PFAI to highlight it in the press release.
    Fair point on player reps. Could've been any two they chose

    Just have a particular issue with PFAI moaning about player finding out from social media considering the tweets last August from PFAI's solicitor about Pats euro bonus ********
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    The FAI would have granted the licence based on figures submitted.
    Again, how is it their fault if Monaghan under or over estimated certain items which they then submitted.
    Can't always be the FAI's fault this.

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    And I have no love for the FAI for many reasons, but clubs need to start getting real.

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    The players contacted were the team captain and the player who has been dealing with the PFAI.

    The FAI were told of the seriousness of our situation at the meeting a few weeks back and knew this was coming if we didnt secure a sponsor.

    So much I want to say here that would clarify things but I can't as I dont want people in my club getting in trouble for repeating some of the stuff that has happened in the last few weeks.

    Am so angry. The last few weeks have been so hard. It has been like nursing a cancer patient, relief that it is now over but the gut wrenching pain of losing a loved one.

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    Too easy to blame the FAI on this one but I cant see how this is their fault.

    Monaghan's budget would have "assumed" /"projected" gate receipts to go up as a result of playing in the Premier / more away fans etc.

    Now unless those "projections" were ridiciously over estimated and the FAI then accepted such a set of ridiculous estimates, how is it the FAIs fault?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dong View Post
    And I have no love for the FAI for many reasons, but clubs need to start getting real.
    Yours for a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nailor View Post
    Devastated for the fans, players and volunteers of Monaghan, I'd heard they were in trouble but didn't think it would have the plug pulled so soon without even a consultation with the PFAI, FAI or whoever.
    The whole licensing system shown as a total farce yet again.
    With Dundalk seemingly on their uppers and rumors flying about a couple of others, how long before a one division league? Limerick, Longford,Waterford, Bohs, Bray etc should rethink whatever they were going to do about strengthening in the window to become/stay as a Premier team for next year, because it looks increasingly likely it won't matter a flying f**k.
    Limerick and Longford Im sure will want to strengthen where possible. Why would they not want to win the league?
    In the Prem, Im sure the top 3 or 4 clubs will have eyes on the title with a further few hoping to get into Europe.

    I feel very sorry for the fans of Monaghan today, we almost went to the wall in the "off-season" and it was tough times so can only imagine what it's like now to all of a sudden not have a club.
    I'd wager well over 50% of the clubs are struggling to make wage payments at the moment. Long way to go in the season yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mario View Post
    Now unless those "projections" were ridiciously over estimated and the FAI then accepted such a set of ridiculous estimates, how is it the FAIs fault?
    Clearly thats in play here.

    And I don't think anyone is suggesting Monaghan don't bare the majority of blame here. Of course they do, but everyone involved in licensing is culpable
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    FAI Press Release

    FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION OF IRELAND
    Monday, June 18, 2012

    FAI statement re Monaghan United FC


    The Football Association of Ireland today (June 18) confirmed that Monaghan United has notified the League Department of its formal intention to withdraw from the Airtricity League of Ireland Premier Division. The club had met with the National League Director in the past month and no indication of this decision was flagged at that meeting.

    Speaking today, Fran Gavin, Director of the Airtricity League said: "We met with the officials of Monaghan United less than a month ago to get an update on where they were with their budget for the season. At that time there was absolutely no question of withdrawing from the league. Today's announcement from Monaghan United is a surprise to us and is very disappointing.

    "We have been assisting the club in recent weeks to try and help them source a main sponsor."

    The FAI have called a Board Meeting this afternoon in Poland where the matter will be discussed. The Board members present in Poland are there at their own expense.

    Chairman of the National League Eamon Naughton and Airtricity League Director Fran Gavin expressed their disappointment at Monaghan United’s decision after the growth that the club has seen since its entry to the League of Ireland in 1985.

    Monaghan United has received significant support from the FAI and the National League including a facility development loan for €150,000 of which over €100,000 is still outstanding. The FAI also provided a €25,000 grant to the club in 2009 during its AGM in Monaghan, as well as providing assistance in securing Sports Capital Grants for the club.

    A further statement will be issued later this evening once the FAI Board has had the opportunity to consider the matter fully and determine the next steps.


    Stephen Finn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post
    Speaking today, Fran Gavin, Director of the Airtricity League said: "We met with the officials of Monaghan United less than a month ago to get an update on where they were with their budget for the season. At that time there was absolutely no question of withdrawing from the league. Today's announcement from Monaghan United is a surprise to us and is very disappointing.
    Surely this sums up the farce that is the FAI Licencing system and procedures....

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    Will Delaney be able to pull himself away from his pint to attend this meeting..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post

    Monaghan United has received significant support from the FAI and the National League including a facility development loan for €150,000 of which over €100,000 is still outstanding.
    Monaghan have committed to paying their creditors. I presume this loan is one of those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunny View Post
    Will Delaney be able to pull himself away from his pint to attend this meeting..
    It's the FAI. The meeting is at the bar and pints will be on expenses.

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    Loved going up to Monaghan. Great little ground, lovely bar, great food and really nice people. Such a shame.
    Here on a technicality.

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    Terrible news. I feel for all of their fans. I feel nothing for all the Manchester United and Liverpool fans in Monaghan who won't be aware this has happened, if they're even aware they had a League of Ireland side to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicme View Post
    The FAI were told of the seriousness of our situation at the meeting a few weeks back and knew this was coming if we didnt secure a sponsor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Battery Rover View Post
    FAI Press Release

    FOOTBALL ASSOCIATION OF IRELAND
    Monday, June 18, 2012

    FAI statement re Monaghan United FC


    The Football Association of Ireland today (June 18) confirmed that Monaghan United has notified the League Department of its formal intention to withdraw from the Airtricity League of Ireland Premier Division. The club had met with the National League Director in the past month and no indication of this decision was flagged at that meeting.

    Speaking today, Fran Gavin, Director of the Airtricity League said: "We met with the officials of Monaghan United less than a month ago to get an update on where they were with their budget for the season. At that time there was absolutely no question of withdrawing from the league. Today's announcement from Monaghan United is a surprise to us and is very disappointing.

    "We have been assisting the club in recent weeks to try and help them source a main sponsor."
    Some very contradictory stuff there. Feel a lot of sympathy for you MM you've more or less embodied Monaghan Utd for posters here and I don't think anyone could help but be impressed by your dedication and enthusiasm. If it's any compensation I'm sure most on here would be more likely to believe your side of events.
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    The FAI don't make mention of the thousands of € worth of "free time" they get on the Astro pitch as well as us making payments every month on their loan. The fact that we have provided a base for Cavan and Monaghan football development is soon forgotten by them.

    Our budgets were very modest and were seemingly attainable but things got much worse than expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dong View Post
    The FAI would have granted the licence based on figures submitted.
    Again, how is it their fault if Monaghan under or over estimated certain items which they then submitted.
    Can't always be the FAI's fault this.

    Whats the point in licencing at all if you can just go in and give figures that are so far wrong you fold mid season...

    Surely has to be some sort of checks that the figures are reasonable.

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