Bohs in financial trouble

**marinobohs** · 17/02/2011, 8:51 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

How so? Bohs had a tax clearance cert and signed agreements in place. They fulfilled the criteria.

Now you can argue that the criterai is wrong, but thats not going fit in with your self pity is it?

..of course there should be a rule banning clubs delaying payments to players - because that never happened at Galway now did it ? and a rule banning clubs mortgaging grounds and....... as long as it only effects Bohs of course.

Hardly rocket science why Galway did not get a licence and Bohs did - clear transparent criteria, known to all clubs along with timelines for same. Bohs complied Galway didn't.

**Dave_SRFC** · 17/02/2011, 8:51 AM

As always I look forward to playing them but they seem to be getting away with what other clubs get punished for only difference is the other clubs get punished for less. They're an absolute laughing stock at this stage. Has all the fundraising money gone towards paying new players? Surely an embargo on signing players must be put in place. How they got a licence should seriously be investigated into.
As always Bohs fans will bring up the way my club was run before our members took over but you need to take a hard look at the clowns who are in charge of your club or you will end up defunct.

**Olander** · 17/02/2011, 8:57 AM

Originally Posted by marinobohs

Hardly rocket science why Galway did not get a licence and Bohs did - clear transparent criteria, known to all clubs along with timelines for same. Bohs complied Galway didn't.

aha.

Clear and transparent. Brilliant. Ask some of your players from 2010 that are still owed money that they are supposed to have by now if the agreements were "clear and transparent".

**Nedser** · 17/02/2011, 8:58 AM

Originally Posted by Dave_SRFC

As always I look forward to playing them but they seem to be getting away with what other clubs get punished for only difference is the other clubs get punished for less.

What exactly have Bohs got away with that other clubs got punished for? As has been pointed out several times already, whether you like it or not, Bohs complied with the criteria for licensing, hence got a licence.

Originally Posted by Dave_SRFC

Has all the fundraising money gone towards paying new players? Surely an embargo on signing players must be put in place.

Did you read the article? The supporters loans have not been released to the club yet, and the reason why is explained quite clearly.

**Dodge** · 17/02/2011, 9:00 AM

Originally Posted by Olander

The licening committee has been shown up to be an absolute joke. What we should have done with our footballing creditors is, take out a big loan, commit to paying people what they're actually owed, renege on the payment due to footballing creditors. Go out and stage a press conference and sign 10 players.

Exactly.

We have fullfilled ALL payments to players. What good are signed agreements if you DON'T actually pay them? So by them, "fulfilling" the criteria, it's okay to make promises and commitments to people and then back down on them?

According to licensing, yeah.

The Tax certificate was an unfortunate event, something that was out of GUST's hands. That has been rectified now and we are hopeful of attaining a Premier Division licence.

Good. Bohs had one btw

But, excuse us for actually COMMITING to paying off our creditors, instead of making up bull**** agreements that we had no intention of adhering to. The Trust's only real crime in this is being realist. We have only paid out what we have got in and we do NOT take out loans.

None of which is related to licensing.

It really is hard to understand, do you actually believe the criteria that Bohs presented to the FAI was RIGHT and proper? They have already reneged on a payment after a 4 days of being awarded a licence!!!!!

No, Bohs have been run disgracefully. However they fulfilled the licensing criteria and Galway didn�t. That isn�t double standards, that�s having the wrong standards. Galway weren�t judged against other teams. They failed against the criteria. It really is that simple.

I absolutely thing the criteria should change, but as it is, Bohs did what they had to do, and Galway didn�t.

And again, its pretty precious from the DVD producers to call for fair play now when you were promoted on a similarly bizarre reason. And I say that as someone who wants Gakway in the premier (where they belong)

**Dave_SRFC** · 17/02/2011, 9:03 AM

Do you seriously believe that? you're deluded if you do.

Originally Posted by Nedser

What exactly have Bohs got away with that other clubs got punished for? As has been pointed out several times already, whether you like it or not, Bohs complied with the criteria for licensing, hence got a licence.

Did you read the article? The supporters loans have not been released to the club yet, and the reason why is explained quite clearly.

**Nedser** · 17/02/2011, 9:05 AM

Originally Posted by Dave_SRFC

Do you seriously believe that? you're deluded if you do.

Believe what? Being precise isn't your strong point, is it?

**John83** · 17/02/2011, 9:06 AM

Originally Posted by holidaysong

It's a Wonderful Life.

The money's not here. Your money's in Bohs' house...right next to yours. And in the Hoey house, and Lansdowne Road, and a hundred others.

**Spudulika** · 17/02/2011, 9:15 AM

He looks like he's about to break out into Fiddler on the Roof - "Now that I'm a rich man la la la la la la etc"

**WoodquayBoy** · 17/02/2011, 9:16 AM

Now every club knows what to do next year, including our naive selves. I agree with Dodge to be honest, we were judged against the licensing criteria and failed. Bohs played the system and didn't fail. Both clubs have been run in a shocking manner in recent years, but the thing that has me riled is the fact that we, the fans, have tried to stop that rot and behave in a proper manner, and look where it got us. From what I can see, Bohs, on the other hand, continue to sully the name of a league that now resembles confetti, such has been the constant shredding of its reputation.

**pineapple stu** · 17/02/2011, 9:21 AM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

but the thing that has me riled is the fact that we, the fans, have tried to stop that rot and behave in a proper manner, and look where it got us. From what I can see, Bohs, on the other hand, continue to sully the name of a league that now resembles confetti, such has been the constant shredding of its reputation.

If it's any consolation, in a couple of years' time, Galway will reap the benefits of that approach while Bohs' problems will come home to roost.

**Dodge** · 17/02/2011, 9:23 AM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

From what I can see, Bohs, on the other hand, continue to sully the name of a league that now resembles confetti, such has been the constant shredding of its reputation.

There's no argument from me there. Thats why there's no need to bring the plights of other clubs into it.

**Nedser** · 17/02/2011, 9:23 AM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Now every club knows what to do next year, including our naive selves. I agree with Dodge to be honest, we were judged against the licensing criteria and failed. Bohs played the system and didn't fail. Both clubs have been run in a shocking manner in recent years, but the thing that has me riled is the fact that we, the fans, have tried to stop that rot and behave in a proper manner, and look where it got us. From what I can see, Bohs, on the other hand, continue to sully the name of a league that now resembles confetti, such has been the constant shredding of its reputation.

Give it a rest. This latest hitch clearly wasn't a deliberate ploy by Bohs - if the money from the loans scheme doesn't come through, they're screwed, licence or no licence.

**Olander** · 17/02/2011, 9:24 AM

Originally Posted by Dodge

However they fulfilled the licensing criteria and Galway didn’t.

With lies. That's no good for anyone.

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Both clubs have been run in a shocking manner in recent years, but the thing that has me riled is the fact that we, the fans, have tried to stop that rot and behave in a proper manner, and look where it got us. From what I can see, Bohs, on the other hand, continue to sully the name of a league that now resembles confetti, such has been the constant shredding of its reputation.

Spot on...

**Ezeikial** · 17/02/2011, 9:30 AM

This latest Indo report certainly indicates further financial trouble at Bohs, and most definately calls the FAI licencing system into question again.

If the Indo is correct that "The club have been told to expect a letter that will lift that charge by the Department of Tourism, Culture and Sport, but as of last night, it had not been received and the club remain in the dark about when it will arrive" it begs a number of questions

1) Have the Dept confirmed to Bohs that they will waive their charge on the stadium, or alternatively permit the loanees to have a preferential charge?

2) What is the Bohs board strategy if this agreement is not forthcoming?

3) Why would the Govt provide this concession on taxpayers money?

4) Did Bohs declare this caveat to the players involved when negotiating the settlement and agreeing a date for payment?

5) Is this episode another indication that the Bohs board are incapable of ethically and morally sound management of the club?

6) Do the members of the club support the actions of the board which appear to be alienating many people in football and in the wider community?

**John83** · 17/02/2011, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

From what I can see, Bohs, on the other hand, continue to sully the name of a league that now resembles confetti, such has been the constant shredding of its reputation.

Sadly, like Bev Cooper-Flynn, the league has no good name to sully.

**Olander** · 17/02/2011, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

If it's any consolation, in a couple of years' time, Galway will reap the benefits of that approach while Bohs' problems will come home to roost.

Thanks Stu.

Sadly, it will be no consolation when we're playing Fanad Utd on front of 50 people.

We still hope for a Premier Licence. But I don't expect.

**Mr A** · 17/02/2011, 9:36 AM

"The club have been told to expect a letter that will lift that charge by the Department of Tourism, Culture and Sport, but as of last night, it had not been received and the club remain in the dark about when it will arrive"

Very worrying for Bohs, as this could take a while. Anybody involved in the Harps Stadium project could tell you about how long the simplest things can take when dealing with Irish bureaucracy. Hopefully it gets sorted quick so the players can get what they are owed.

I wonder are the new signings registered yet? If not it would seem mad to register them while the slightest doubt remains over these loans.