The Derry City thread - Derry sign first four players

**Schumi** · 11/11/2009, 4:32 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I'd say you could get around that easily enough if you wanted to. The only thing said about promotion from the A League is that you have to finish top three in your group and then win a play-off. If no non-reserve side finishes top three, there's no play-off. I'd say that's enough to allow that a new league side would be selected the same way as Fingal were, TBH.

Or this.

**Kildareman** · 11/11/2009, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

On the First Division promotion thing, remember Sporting Fingal jumped the queue last year when joining the First Division. All the interested/ready A League clubs were asked to apply, and the one with the highest marks or best presentation was promoted. I imagine something similar will see Derry back in the First Division next season to fill the gap created by themselves.

Why dont they get Cork to fill the spot in the First Division and then get applications from the other First Division clubs to fill the then gap in the Premier Division.

**Mr_Parker** · 11/11/2009, 8:52 PM

By what authority was an amnesty offered?

**OneRedArmy** · 12/11/2009, 8:24 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

By what authority was an amnesty offered?

The FAI threatened to withhold registration of the players.

No idea whether they have that power (suspect it wouldn't stand up in Court), but it worked.

**Macy** · 12/11/2009, 8:34 AM

It wasn't really an amnesty, rather a threat of more action. The FAI seem to have brought "we didn't know" line though. As I said early, the players can probably whistle for what their owed, so they haven't really walked scot free.

**WoodquayBoy** · 12/11/2009, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

It wasn't really an amnesty, rather a threat of more action. The FAI seem to have brought "we didn't know" line though. As I said early, the players can probably whistle for what their owed, so they haven't really walked scot free.

Just watched MNS again last night, and Delaney definitely mentioned the word 'amnesty'

**Macy** · 12/11/2009, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy

Just watched MNS again last night, and Delaney definitely mentioned the word 'amnesty'

I was going on what was on the news, didn't see MNS, apologies.

**Mr_Parker** · 12/11/2009, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

The FAI threatened to withhold registration of the players.

No idea whether they have that power (suspect it wouldn't stand up in Court), but it worked.

It may have 'worked' but is it now still open to a challange?

**eelmonster** · 12/11/2009, 10:17 AM

The longer this goes on the more incredible it seems to me, since I fist heard it earlier this week I just can't believe it, in fact I refuse to believe it ... is Pat McDaid really only 32? He looks at least 40.

**Mr A** · 12/11/2009, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by eelmonster

The longer this goes on the more incredible it seems to me, since I fist heard it earlier this week I just can't believe it, in fact I refuse to believe it ... is Pat McDaid really only 32? He looks at least 40.

That depends, officially, he's only had enough birthdays to be 32. If you dig a bit though and add in the unofficial birthdays he's actually over 40.

**Mr_Parker** · 12/11/2009, 11:13 AM

Derry's new Chairman has now resigned too...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_...st/8356761.stm

**p�l-dcfc** · 12/11/2009, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

Derry's new Chairman has now resigned too...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_...st/8356761.stm

Thank christ.

**pineapple stu** · 12/11/2009, 11:16 AM

Derry City were expelled from the League of Ireland after the FAI said they broke regulations by holding secondary, unofficial contracts with players.

It is alleged these contracts were used to get round limits on the amount clubs can spend on players wages.

Is this the first time the whole issue has been put as simply as that?

So is this what other clubs can expect if they go over the 65% rule, or is this what other clubs can expect if they try to hide going over the 65% rule?

**John83** · 12/11/2009, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

Derry's new Chairman has now resigned too...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_...st/8356761.stm

In fairness, he was always going to do that - he only hung on to organise who replaced the board.

**CSFShels** · 12/11/2009, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

On the First Division promotion thing, remember Sporting Fingal jumped the queue last year when joining the First Division. All the interested/ready A League clubs were asked to apply, and the one with the highest marks or best presentation was promoted. I imagine something similar will see Derry back in the First Division next season to fill the gap created by themselves

Well no, Fingal didn't jump a queue, they were an equal member of the queue because there had been no previous A League seasons, and they were just one of another entries for the first one.

This time around, there has been a few, and thus Derry are at the bottom of that queue.

**p�l-dcfc** · 12/11/2009, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by John83

In fairness, he was always going to do that - he only hung on to organise who replaced the board.

In fairness, I don't think you know what you're on about. He said on the radio yesterday that he was determined to stay on. The reaction he got from our fans may have convinced him he wasn't wanted. He's an extremely arrogant man - some of his posts on our forum are utterly disgraceful - and I have no doubt that he thought he would be able to get away with staying on the board. Delaney also said today that he remained a stumbling block.

**John83** · 12/11/2009, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

In fairness, I don't think you know what you're on about. He said on the radio yesterday that he was determined to stay on. The reaction he got from our fans may have convinced him he wasn't wanted. He's an extremely arrogant man - some of his posts on our forum are utterly disgraceful - and I have no doubt that he thought he would be able to get away with staying on the board. Delaney also said today that he remained a stumbling block.

Okay, I trust you know what you're talking about - I was under the impression that the board couldn't resign en mass and he was just the last out, but it seems I'm wrong.

**p�l-dcfc** · 12/11/2009, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by John83

Okay, I trust you know what you're talking about - I was under the impression that the board couldn't resign en mass and he was just the last out, but it seems I'm wrong.

No I think you are partially right. But McCarron is a special kind of *****. He had the arrogance to believe that we would buy his story of being none the wiser about the dodgy contracts.

**John83** · 12/11/2009, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by p�l-dcfc

No I think you are partially right. But McCarron is a special kind of *****. He had the arrogance to believe that we would buy his story of being none the wiser about the dodgy contracts.

It seems to me like Derry City's players, officials and PFAI reps all believe something similar.