[QUOTE=DeLorean;Maybe the attack on his fitness may have been over the top but that's not to say it isn't true, I wasn't at the game myself so I wouldn't really know.[/QUOTE]
Why would you need to be at the game to knowIf there was something wrong with Alan Wiley's fitness i think it would have been noticed by now baring in mind they do regular fitness checks and he refs in the league regularly
Well I suppose you'd have a better idea of how well he gets around the field from being at the game, and if he looked under pressure in keeping up. Personally I doubt very much this is an issue, maybe he's just lazy!!Originally Posted by Rafa B
Why would you need to be at the game to know
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Or whiskey nose needed someone to blame for not getting his Brucie BonusWell I suppose you'd have a better ideal of how well he gets around the field from being at the game, and if he looked under pressure in keeping up. Personally I doubt very much this is an issue, maybe he's just lazy!!
as already said i found allaladice's comments to to be more personal and way over the top as he actually said "ref should be sacked " plus i also think the so called big four always will get the referee's benefit in a lot of games no matter how much they have a go at ref's .
" football is a simple game "
Maybe Whiskeynose told Fat Sam to make the commentsas already said i found allaladice's comments to to be more personal and way over the top as he actually said "ref should be sacked " plus i also think the so called big four always will get the referee's benefit in a lot of games no matter how much they have a go at ref's .
No Giggs last weekend. Big mistake by the manager surely?
I suppose in hindsight with the form he's in. Would have expected to beat Sunderland at home with their Carling Cup side though to be fair. Giggs definitely can't play every match.
International break after the Sunderland game. Not even on the bench. Pulling the strings and in line for world player of the year
Am going off topic a little here, but was reading an article in last Saturday's Mail, I think about the Glasgow derby and the bitterness etc.The writer alluded to Wayne Rooney attending an Old Firm match and joining the Celtic support. Can anybody elaborate on this?
thanks
Yeah, good point. I'd say he just thought it was a gimme. Maybe there was another reason we don't know about.
Don't know about the last day Den, but...
Defo at an old firm either last season or the season before. The usual i always followed or had a soft spot for them sh1t. Remember Duff, Carr and Given being at one recently as well singing along before the game.
[QUOTE=Rafa B;1244617] a certain manager cowardly attacking a ref for a change
rafa just wondering your views on another preimership manager not charged by fa for attack on referee... mr benetiz when asked about phil dowd in tv interview after match takes his classes out of his coat pocket looks through them and then puts them away.
" football is a simple game "
[QUOTE=old git;1251718]How many times has Benitez been involved in these sort of situations compared to whiskey nose? I agree what Rafa did was wrong but he got off due to his record. Whiskey nose has been getting away with it for years.a certain manager cowardly attacking a ref for a change
rafa just wondering your views on another preimership manager not charged by fa for attack on referee... mr benetiz when asked about phil dowd in tv interview after match takes his classes out of his coat pocket looks through them and then puts them away.
I had good time for Benitez the first couple of years he was at Liverpool. The past year or two he has become as bad as Wenger and Ferguson, in my opinion. Always blaming somebody else and making excuses. He was more like the Benitez of old in the aftermath of the Sunderland match, in which he had grounds for complaints. Long may it continue.
He certainly changed in a few situations over the last few seasons probably seeing what the others were doing but it was good to see him saying what he said on Saturday. Basically kept his blinkers off and saw we were well beaten instead of trying to blame the ref.
Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with improper conduct by the Football Association over his comments regarding referee Alan Wiley's fitness.
The Manchester United manager launched an outspoken attack on the official following the 2-2 draw with Sunderland at Old Trafford on 3rd October.
The Scot claimed in a post-match interview that the experienced official was 'not fit enough for a game of that standard' and accused Wiley of 'walking up the pitch for the second goal needing a rest'.
Ferguson provided the FA with an explanation of his comments but has now been charged for his outburst, which provoked an angry response from representatives of the professional referees.
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The Red Devils boss did issue a personal apology to Wiley for any embarrassment that his comments may have caused, but went on to reiterate his call for improved fitness levels among top-flight officials.
Ferguson has until 3rd November to respond to the charge and could be handed a fine or a touchline ban as punishment if he is found guilty by the game's governing body.
A statement on the FA's official website read: "Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has been charged with improper conduct.
"The charge relates to media comments made by Ferguson about referee Alan Wiley following United's match against Sunderland at Old Trafford on 3 October."
Water off a ducks back I'd say. Fergie speaks a load of rubbish, the FA fine him, United pick up the bill and on the pitch get the next 50/50 decision go their way. An effective, if completely unethical tactic.
CSKA surely worth a bet at around 3/1
usually freezing weather over there and long trip plus united without a few players, evra, fletcher, park, giggs, maybe rooney
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