[FONT=TimesNewRoman-Bold][SIZE=2][LEFT]The Live Register is not designed to measure unemployment.
It includes part-time workers (those who work up to three days a week), seasonal and casual workers entitled to Jobseekers Benefit or Allowance. Unemployment is measured
[SIZE=2][FONT=TimesNewRoman]by the Quarterly National Household Survey and the latest seasonally adjusted
Got this off the CSO
That shouldn't deflect from the seriousness of the situation. Most of those people simply have no work at all.
It's 5 weeks til the next figures, so an extra week, so at current rates, you're looking at 395,000 on 6 May. That's before the figures at Dell, SR Technics, and Dublin Bus are taken into account.
The government's commitment to salvaging jobs, is to say, there is little chance of a fall in the coming months. Mon dieu!!
Lazy. Clueless. Incompetent. Ineffective.
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I agree 100% obviously. Heard a chap on RTE with Sean O Rourke at lunch time, Dr/Prof Fred ??(don't remember his surname, English Gentleman). He reckons we are in the sh*t big time becuase of the policy's being set out currently. Said we should be taxing land but George Lee and himself disagreed 100% on the best way out of this. What is interesting is this guy is doing a lecture in Trinity tomorrow i think - and in truth i think he was saving his analysis / solution till then. Would go if I lived in the Pale.That shouldn't deflect from the seriousness of the situation.
[QUOTE=Fr Damo;1135009]He deserves listening to if only because he wrote a book 18 months ago which predicted fairly accurately what has played out since then.
I agree 100% obviously. Heard a chap on RTE with Sean O Rourke at lunch time, Dr/Prof Fred ??(don't remember his surname, English Gentleman). He reckons we are in the sh*t big time becuase of the policy's being set out currently. Said we should be taxing land but George Lee and himself disagreed 100% on the best way out of this. What is interesting is this guy is doing a lecture in Trinity tomorrow i think - and in truth i think he was saving his analysis / solution till then. Would go if I lived in the Pale.
However I don't see a property tax as anything near a silver bullet.
Government to tackle welfare fraud
Crazy that Photo ID was not required up to now.Photo identification is to be required for those collecting social welfare payments after over a tenth of claims that were investigated were found to be bogus.
Fraud investigations in eight areas of the State that began in March saw more than 2,200 claimants examined, and of those 275 have had their claims suspended and are no longer entitled to claim a benefit, or are under continuing investigation.
Also ID will not stop someone flying in from abroad to collect cheque & flying back on same day.
Will such a massive budget you would think anti-fraud measures would be a lot better. If 10% fraud was common across the system would be a huge sum of money.
I've no problem with it, and whilst they're at it, all social welfare should have to be collected in person using the same system. It keeps the post offices open, and whilst it would be inconvenient for some it would make it harder to abuse the system.
However, lest we forget, who was in power when all these payments went direct without face to face contact, in order to save money?
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Any one entitled to job seekers allowance should be paid it as that is what we all pay PRSI for but fraud should removed.
I remember claiming for couple of months at tail end of 2004 & aside from initial application I never had to collect anything in person as was deposited in my account every week.
I always wondered that if I did not tell them how long it would have taken them to discover I had a job & didn't need the payment anymore.
For initial application the welfare office not a nice visit. The ignorance from the staff towards others was staggering especially to not-Irish people.
When they got your tax returns after your first payment, so you have to go to them in person and tell them.Originally Posted by pete
Photo ID has always been required, as you need a passport or driving licence with your application.
The problem now, is there is too much bureaucracy holding up the processing of claims. If you live at home, it's not enough to bring utility bills, you need a "parents note" as well. Why??
If people had to go in person every week to collect their money, it would have to be less viable for (albeit probably overstated) foreign fraudsters to cheat the system. As with previous recessions, I'd say people claiming while working in the black economy is more of an issue.
Presumably the utility bill is to prove residence. If you're not on that I don't see why it's an issue to ask the person listed whether you're resident or not? Delays are only going to get worse with the stupid across the board recruitment embargo.
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
You need the utility bill, (within 3 months
That and the recruitment embargo, is what's taking claims up to 14 weeks to process. There has been little if any, new recruits inspecting claims. They've been mostly re-directed from other duties.
It's probably a pain in the arse, but I have to say that doesn't seem excessive imo. To get a library card you need proof of address ffs.You need the utility bill, (within 3 months
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
No problem with needing a proof of address, it's the lengths they go to before being satisfied with it, is what's annoying.
Well boys, I shall soon be joining this category! I have through to the end of this month and then I am on notice.
Anybody else see this in the indo?
Link
Yeah had have you not read the retor and the absolute rubbish that letter was and the nonsense that this guy spouted on Boards.ie, check out the budget thread.
In Trap we trust
Must have been on every forum by now.
Just underlines again, what the attitude is towards social welfare, with false information given by those in current employment.
For the first time I can remember, there will be 2 monthly unemployment figures released this month, when the "April"
RTE News reports that Boyle is the town with the longest wait for JA claims to be processed in the country, at a staggering 19 weeks.
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ERSI says unemployment to hit 17%
Are ESRI predictions normally correct? Probably been 15 years since saw unemployment at those numbers. Will surely see a lot more emigration at those rates.Unemployment in Ireland will rise to almost 17 per cent next year, the Economic and Social Research Institute (ESRI) says in a report published today.
The ESRI forecast that Ireland will experience the sharpest fall in economic growth of any industrialised country since the Great Depression.
“Our forecasts suggest that Ireland’s economy will contract by around 14 per cent over the three years 2008 to 2010. By historic and international standards this is a truly dramatic development.
Maybe but where to ? Most other countries are experiencing similar strife. On the one hand it's easier for EU nationals to move within the block than say 15 years ago, but why move to say France if there are hardly any jobs there ??
The US and Australia used to be attractive destinations but there are massive problems in these places too. US Unemployment is eeking towards 10% (may even be at that now).
difficulty this time round is with emmigration there's not really anywhere to go in the short term - in all reality anyone who's worked in a low skilled environment is going to find it very difficult to find work, that's the worrying thing.
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