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    Few other loan deal from last friday:
    Stack gone to Blackpool until the end of the season: http://www.blackpoolfc.premiumtv.co....469246,00.html
    Damian Scannell (Shaun's brother) gone to Brentford for a month: http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/La...468592,00.html
    Marc Tierney gone on loan to Colchester: http://www.cu-fc.com/page/News/0,,10424~1468990,00.html
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    Another 2 goals from Noel Hunt as Reading came from behind to beat Coventry 3-1.

    Brady and Tardelli were at the game tonight and had plenty of Irish players to look at.

    Kevin Doyle,Stephen Hunt, Noel Hunt & Shane Long for Reading

    Kieran Westwood,Jay Tabb, Clinton Morrison, Michael Doyle & Leon Best for Coventry.

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    Did they all play?

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    Did they know who was Irish?

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    First off, I bet this is one of the weirdest prefaces there has been on here.

    I was reading the bio of the Hothouse Flowers on Wiki - don't ask! Anyway at the end it says that in late 2007 band member Peter O'Toole left the band as his son (Doolin) was scouted by Valencia FC.

    * Probably a wiki-windup but there you go. I am braced for the ridicule

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    Irish Abroad for Satuday, 29th November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroa...ate=2008-11-29
    Liam Miller made his first appearance since 27 September
    After being an unused substitute for the previous four games in a row, Alan Mahon has come off the bench for Burnley for four games in a row
    Stephen Elliott scored his third goal since moving to Preston, all of which have come at Deepdale
    After a blistering start to the season, JJ O'Toole has faded from the starting XI at Watford. Today he came off the bench for the fifth game in a row.
    Congratulations to Craig Mahon on making his league debut, on loan at Accrington Stanley
    Jon Daly scored his fifth and sixth goals of the season, Dundee United have won every one of these games
    Luton lost the first game in which Michael Spillane scored, the Norwich youngster scored his third of the season in the 3-1 loss to Southend

    Irish Abroad for Sunday, 30th November 2008: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroa...ate=2008-11-30
    After starting the previous four games in a row, John O'Shea came off the bench for the first time since the 1st November
    Stephen Ireland picked up his fourth booking of the season. This was the first one at home, the previous three had been away from Eastlands
    Keith Andrews made his tenth start of the season, and continued his record of completing every game away from home.
    Stephen McPhail was sent off for the second time this season

    Irish Abroad for Monday, 1st December 2008:
    Robbie Keane was substituted for the 15th time in 18 starts. He only completed one game in November for Liverpool
    Noel Hunt scored his ninth and tenth goals of the season. Reading have won every one of these games
    In the same game, Stephen Hunt picked up his second booking of the season
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    Irish Abroad statistics for November: http://www.chatsoccer.net/irishabroad/november.xquery
    Kevin Foley and Stephen Ward strengthened their case for a call up by winning more games than any other players
    Keith Andrews, David Bell, and Michael Spillane all lost the most games
    Despite the coverage Robbie Keane is getting, Noel Hunt was substituted more than him
    JJ O'Toole and Andy Keogh were both introduced more than any other player
    Kevin Doyle was the top scorer, Jon Daly scored the only penalty by an Irish player in November
    Willo Flood and Stephen Ireland both picked up three bookings
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    Appears that McCarthy has a word with Brady about getting Stephen Ward in the squad......

    http://www.expressandstar.com/2008/1...epublic-glory/

    Wolves v QPR on TV on Saturday @ 5.15 on Sky with our future full backs coming head to head (Or alternatively watch Sunderland take a battering at United).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Irish Wolf View Post
    Appears that McCarthy has a word with Brady about getting Stephen Ward in the squad
    I wouldn't hold your breath Mancs! Alan Irvine did the same regards St Ledger, without anything happening.

    Although recently Alan Kelly and Mick Martin have turned up at Deepdale. maybe alerted after St Ledger won the North West Player of the year.

    For what its worth I think Foley deserves a chance too, but it seems Trapp is not prepared to travel to see players who are doing well, instead taking the easy option and picking the likes of the very poor McShane and Bruce!

    My main concern with Trapp is what standard of squad will we be left with once he has taken his money and run?

    There seems to be no long term plan or development regards the squad or bringing up and coming players players through, opting instead for brief glory by making it to the World Cup in South Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    There seems to be no long term plan or development regards the squad or bringing up and coming players players through, opting instead for brief glory by making it to the World Cup in South Africa.
    I've talked about this before:

    Keogh, McShane, McGeady, and Gibson are all young players (22 or under) that Trap has in his first team plans.

    It's not a matter of him not picking young players, it's a matter of him picking the wrong young players (with the exception of McGeady).

    Considering those 4 are in the starting lineup or close to it, I don't think we can claim that Trap has no aims for building for the future.

    If I'm being frank, I think we should play our best CURRENT lineup in every qualification game.

    Leave the development to the clubs, our national team should be about qualifying, nothing more.

    Trap can create a team structure, and he may pass on a tip or two, but a player won't be developed from a solid pro into a superstar by having two weeks of coaching by Trap each year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishfan86 View Post
    I've talked about this before:

    Keogh, McShane, McGeady, and Gibson are all young players (22 or under) that Trap has in his first team plans.

    It's not a matter of him not picking young players, it's a matter of him picking the wrong young players (with the exception of McGeady).

    Considering those 4 are in the starting lineup or close to it, I don't think we can claim that Trap has no aims for building for the future.

    If I'm being frank, I think we should play our best CURRENT lineup in every qualification game.

    Leave the development to the clubs, our national team should be about qualifying, nothing more.

    Trap can create a team structure, and he may pass on a tip or two, but a player won't be developed from a solid pro into a superstar by having two weeks of coaching by Trap each year.

    Thats a fair comment, but what happens if and when we get injuries? what will Trapp do then? Considering he opted against giving other players games in the friendlies and B game.

    Tell me this, how come Eddie Nolan gets a game for the B team, and St Ledger doesn't even make the squad.

    Strange when you consider that St Ledger is 1st choice at Preston whilst Nolan is only seen as cover.

    Trapp and his goons have got it all wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    Thats a fair comment, but what happens if and when we get injuries? what will Trapp do then? Considering he opted against giving other players games in the friendlies and B game.

    Tell me this, how come Eddie Nolan gets a game for the B team, and St Ledger doesn't even make the squad.

    Strange when you consider that St Ledger is 1st choice at Preston whilst Nolan is only seen as cover.

    Trapp and his goons have got it all wrong!
    If I had to guess, it's because Nolan has played regularly at underage level, and the coaches are familiar with him, whereas they wouldn't know that much about St Ledger
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    If I had to guess, it's because Nolan has played regularly at underage level, and the coaches are familiar with him, whereas they wouldn't know that much about St Ledger
    So that makes it ok then? Whats that say about the professionalism of our scouting set up then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the doc View Post
    So that makes it ok then? Whats that say about the professionalism of our scouting set up then?
    Where did I say it was right or wrong? How do you know nobody has been to watch Ledger? There's probably a hundred different reasons why Ledger wasn't called into the squad. Preston lost the previous 4 games in a row before the Forest game, maybe that had something to do with it?
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    Blackburns Keith Treacy played a full game against Man U last night. Alan Judge was an unused sub.
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    Trap and Tardelli at Norwich-Ipswich today. Doherty, Hoolahan, Garvan, Norris, Bruce and Walters all started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eirebhoy View Post
    Trap and Tardelli at Norwich-Ipswich today. Doherty, Hoolahan, Garvan, Norris, Bruce and Walters all started.
    David Bell aslo started but he looked pretty poor playing out of position on the left...

    Good to hear Trap and Tardelli finally getting off their ar$es and doing a bit of scouting...
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    garvan was well below par today distribution wasnt upto his usual high standard...on the other had hoolahan really impressed with his movement and linkup with lita

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    Steve Claridges latest scouting report is on young Reading Tyro Scott Davies, currently on loan at Aldershot town.

    Scouting report: Scott Davies, Reading


    Trying to analyse Scott Davies is like trying to solve an enigma. During the course of a match he can go from playing the role of the protector in front of the back four to being so far forward that he is getting caught offside, such is his eagerness to reach the ball over the top. That is fine as long as Davies, who is currently on loan at Aldershot Town, learns to *balance his game and picks the right time to either hold his position or release himself forward.
    In this regard, it should not be forgotten that Davies is still only a lad learning his trade and so will naturally do some really good things mixed with some things that are more ordinary. This was summed up best during Aldershot's 2–0 win against Lincoln at the end of last month when he slashed wildly at a bouncing ball with his weaker left foot and completely missed, before then in the very next move breaking forward, taking a first-time pass in his stride and whipping a fantastic cross into the box with the same foot.
    Something that does really stand out about Davies' game is the distance he gets on headers from a standing position. He is also extremely competitive to the point of fearless when challenging for headers on the move. Another real plus of Davies' game is the quality of his dead-ball deliveries, particularly on corners from the left. He is able to whip in a cross with pace and accuracy and it was from such a ball that Andy Sandell scored Aldershot's opening goal against Lincoln on 36 minutes. The quality of the delivery proved too much for Rob Burch in the visitors' net.
    Davies' ability to show his opponent one way or the other when defending in central areas according to the information he receives from his defenders is unusual but of great assistance to the people playing behind him. Less so, however, is the fact he only really gets tight to his marker when the opposition enter Aldershot's third of the pitch. This is something he really needs to work on as it can lead to his side losing ground.
    But against Lincoln there is no doubt it was Davies' two moments of class, either directly or in*directly, that settled the match.
    Having assisted Aldershot's first goal, he then scored their second on 60 minutes — and what a terrific effort it was. Davies followed a long diagonal pass forward from the back, the ball was headed down towards him and he took it into his path with a super first touch before then hitting a brilliant half-volley past the goalkeeper from 12 yards out. It was a goal to grace any match at any level.
    Having all but tied up the victory for his side, Davies then concentrated on the more conservative side of his game to make sure Lincoln could not find a way back. He adopted a very deep midfield role to counter the man who had been pushed forward to play just behind the visitors' front two and did a very good job.
    At 20 years of age, Davies is very much at the beginning of his career and, as mentioned, has weaknesses to his game that need addressing. But he is undoubtedly on the right path and judging by his manager Gary Waddock's reaction to his goal, the boss for one knows the value of Davies to his team.

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    He seems to have a thing for Irish players.
    Heres Billy Clarkes
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