only throughout several comrades of the cause, over the last five years or more time like 8 years when Trap. Forde was the keeper.
He Is the guy who used to play for Reading when a bunch of irish were there as well
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Even though we are desperate for keepers. Just no no. The man has played for England. He is not Irish please no
Wasn't really sure which section to put this one into.
An interesting discussion on the history of the football split in Ireland, an All Ireland team, an AIL, flags and anthems etc, etc.
Irish Soccer, Past History and Future Prospects
"The history of the IFA and FAI and the potential and the challenges of bringing them together. Speakers: Cormac Moore an Irish historian to address the history of the two organisations. Gerry Carlile a businessman and sports agent, addressing future issues. Chair: Brendan Crossan, Irish News Sports Commentator."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctehoBoGO7Y
Tsk, in your head maybe. Gibberish. The reality is there are a lot of dual nationality kids out there, its a FACT. You are allowed to have dual nationality. I hope some day my two kids can play for their country......but what country is that who knows! No one cares.
You’re a bit dim at the best times Bennocelt. Hopefully the kids take after their mother
He's only a bit dim some of the time but he's capable of owning up to it , potentially.
But re FIFA's changing their goalposts, I do not agree with you. The FIFA regulations on eligibility do change but for the most part it's an evolution in favor of the rights of the dual national player.
The changes have nothing to do with money or favoring the big nations. Possibly there are votes to be gained from the ex colonial country in Africa but i think that motive has little currency.
I have no problem with dual, triple or whatever rights players. I have them in my own extended family. I don't see how Irish people of all nationalities could be opposed to it.
The comment about FiFA changing goalposts to suit them - I never mentioned big nations? My comment was in relation to the notion that capping a player - Obafemi for example - to tie him down, becomes irrelevant if FIFA changes the rules subsequently. Which they have done a few times on "nationality". We should cap players who deserve to be capped, nothing else.
Interesting reading recently : https://www.the42.ie/ireland-eligibi...76145-Oct2021/
And the other side of this, rough on him as it seems he's still not 'Irish' which is ridiculous IMO.
Would Hondermarck have to jump through the same hoops?
It's ridiculous that children are being treated with the same scrutiny as adult, already professional players moving and becoming residents.
Wouldn't these rules make it difficult for Odubeko to get his dream England cap too? He literally only moved there to become a professional
Being born an EU citizen might help Hondermarck get his paperwork sorted faster. Has his Irish passport since last year according to an interview a few days ago and seems to be in some contact with Jim Crawford. If it does drag on his mother is Congolese born so could play with them.
I was under the impression that once you had a passport you were eligible but it seems not ? Crazy. I’d much rather see the likes of Ogbene playing for us than some second or third generation lad who has never set foot in the country. Nothing against those guys, but I don’t see how you can have the same feeling as someone who grew up here.
Fully agree, it makes little sense. In the full article, both players reference Quatari behaviour in importing players for their national side as the reason they faced this, Quatar get to host a world cup & Kougoun will most likely never represent, at any level, the country he sees as his, which it is.
I think there have been quite a few 2nd generation players who have had a real affinity with Ireland starting with the likes of Shay Brennan and Charley Gallagher. Kilbane would be the outstanding example, but there are many more Walters, Aldridge, Sheedy, Carsley etc who were clearly not playing for us for opportunistic reasons. There have been a few mercenaries along the way too. The worrying thing is that we have missed out on so many 2nd G players of late for reasons that have more to with career prospects than identity or affinity. Playing for England has a massive income generating potential, and the prospect of almost automatic qualification for tournaments. It’s probably not a coincidence that we attracted more 2nd and 3rd G players when we had a better team and got to finals.
Shivers in more ways than one...:excruciating: