Slovakia v Republic of Ireland - 8th October 2020 - Euro 2020 Playoff Semi Final

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

I think it would be more beneficial in the long run for Ireland to go out now rather than stumble into the Euros with a team of aging and over the hill players for some fans to go on a **** up holiday.

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It'd be more of a p!ss up staycation to be fair.

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

I agree but there is a big gap between thier home and away from

Beat Armenia 2-1, Finland 4-1 and drew with Greece at home, 2-2.
Lost to all 3 away: Armenia 2-4, Greece 1-2 and Finland 0-2.

As Gilesey would say - they are no great shakes.

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Bosnia had a very good NL campaign and had big hopes going in the qualifiers. No great shakes, but playing at home they are favourites to beat NI for a third time in recent competitive football.
And Slovakia are favoured to beat us, so probably that also puts us in the no great shakes classification.
This is the 'no great shakes' play offs where home advantage gives an edge.

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Originally Posted by geysir

Bosnia had a very good NL campaign and had big hopes going in the qualifiers. No great shakes, but playing at home they are favourites to beat NI for a third time in recent competitive football.
And Slovakia are favoured to beat us, so probably that also puts us in the no great shakes classification.
This is the 'no great shakes' play offs where home advantage gives an edge.

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We do have Shaken Enda Stevens in our teams . That could give us an edge .

Not sure if this is the right thread, and apologies if this has been asked before. I think I'm right in saying that in the Charlton era the R o I came from behind to win a competitive match just once, against Luxembourg. How often has it happened since then?

Albania away in 93 as well I think. Won 2-1 in the end

Andorra went 1 up against us in the early 2000s, Kilbane quickly equalised. We won 3-1.

Georgia at Croke Park where we got the dodgy peno comes to mind. The full stats would be interesting. Over to you tetsa :D

Question was technically the Charlton era. :) Otherwise Kazakhstan away would be another in there. (I think they equalised in the home game)

1990 qualifying we kept seven clean sheets from eight - the other was in the 2-0 defeat in Spain. We didn't win any games in Italia 90

1992 qualifying we only beat Turkey, 5-0 and 3-1. I think they equalised in Turkey.

1994 qualifying - Albania away as noted. Latvia, Lithuania, the North were all relatively straightforward. Spain and Denmark we didn't beat. Then in the finals we only beat Italy, 1-0.

1996 qualifying - Beat Portugal, the North, Liechtenstein at home. Lost to Austria having taken the lead at home. Was it Latvia in that group as well? I seem to recall Aldridge scoring a late winner from the spot; had they equalised?

1988 qualifying before my time...

The question is technically post-Charlton, no?

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Originally Posted by Demesne Lad

Not sure if this is the right thread, and apologies if this has been asked before. I think I'm right in saying that in the Charlton era the R o I came from behind to win a competitive match just once, against Luxembourg. How often has it happened since then?

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I've had a look through this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matche..._football_team

Post-Charlton, I can only see two in addition to the above...

-Iceland 4-2 under McCarthy (we led 1-0 but went down 2-1).
-Kazakhstan 3-1 under Noel King, no less.

Maybe this could be spun out into its own stats thread or something but we must be world record holders at drawing 1-1? (especially equalising after going one down against decent sides it seems).

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Was it Latvia in that group as well? I seem to recall Aldridge scoring a late winner from the spot; had they equalised?

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First one was from the spot, Latvia pulled a goal back late on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsX7hZd9iKc

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

Maybe this could be spun out into its own stats thread or something but we must be world record holders at drawing 1-1? (especially equalising after going one down against decent sides it seems).

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Miguel Delaney did an article on our 1-1 history after the Denmark game

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Miguel Delaney did an article on our 1-1 history after the Denmark game

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Must take a look for that, I usually see his stuff.

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

The question is technically post-Charlton, no?

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You're right; apologies! I read "since then" as in the Charlton era since that Luxembourg game (which was very early on)

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

Must take a look for that, I usually see his stuff.

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Here it is https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-a9208446.html

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Originally Posted by geysir

We have the Nations League for building a team for the WC qualifiers. Most every Finals hosts selection has involved levels of corruption. Ridiculous world cup decisions? eg USA 94, fans travel from New York to the baking heat of Orlando for an afternoon game, then back to New York, then god knows where for the knock out round.The WC Final played in daytime in a concrete dry sauna.
Euro 2020, example of one route, last 16 Amsterdam, ->last 8 Baku (36C), -> semi final London.

Qatar - the weather will be perfect, 30 mins travel to any game, can get to 2 games a day at your ease. The stadiums are magnificent and you say half filled? does that mean 'real' fans will be able to get match tickets at face value? Accomodation? do what peoplle usually do, a browser search $50 and up. Beaches are free and English lager louts not welcome. That's paradise.

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You've outdone yourself this time Geysir. You really have.

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

So countries can manipulate thier seeding by selecting a particular frequency and strength of opponents. Like Wales and Romania did pre World Cup 2018 Qualifiers.

https://thesetpieces.com/world-footb...ss-calculator/

The irony of this is, of course that Wales failed to qualify.

I'm glad of the nations league - its only confusing for teams stuck in the playoffs. How do you avoid playoffs? Qualify Automatically.

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I think it will make WC qualification harder.

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Originally Posted by wexfordned

Ireland won't win 2 away games in a row to qualify. I think we'll struggle to beat Slovakia never mind NI or B&H. I think it would be more beneficial in the long run for Ireland to go out now rather than stumble into the Euros with a team of aging and over the hill players for some fans to go on a **** up holiday. Maybe then people will realise there is more to Irish football the national team and might put some pressure on the FAI to reform although I won't hold my breath.

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ALl the country fans going on holiday to dublin for a **** up. Maybe they should play the games end of august/september.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Question was technically the Charlton era. :) Otherwise Kazakhstan away would be another in there. (I think they equalised in the home game)

1990 qualifying we kept seven clean sheets from eight - the other was in the 2-0 defeat in Spain. We didn't win any games in Italia 90

1992 qualifying we only beat Turkey, 5-0 and 3-1. I think they equalised in Turkey.

1994 qualifying - Albania away as noted. Latvia, Lithuania, the North were all relatively straightforward. Spain and Denmark we didn't beat. Then in the finals we only beat Italy, 1-0.

1996 qualifying - Beat Portugal, the North, Liechtenstein at home. Lost to Austria having taken the lead at home. Was it Latvia in that group as well? I seem to recall Aldridge scoring a late winner from the spot; had they equalised?

1988 qualifying before my time...

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Eugh.

I will ALWAYS hate Toni Polster. And I get really miffed when reminded of that game.

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