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Originally Posted by peadar1987
Perhaps some people get a little upset at the prospect of not having grandkids, but if we're going down that road, you're going to have to make laws against straight people who can find a nice wife, or those who aren't interested in children.
Saying that straight couples will face discrimination if gay people are allowed to hold hands in public is homophobic paranoid delusion of the highest order.
That's not what I said at all.
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Originally Posted by Spudulika
I''m going to be brutally honest. When my eldest was about to be born I wondered "What if she has some disability." After a moment I realised, I don't give a hoot, she's my girl and that's that. With my wee lad I thought, what if he chooses to be gay, and I thought of my daughter - if she decides to be lesbian. What was my reaction? Worry. That the world would be tough for them. That they might not find a good partner. That they might not find happiness. Not once did I think of grandkids, or what others would think of me. And then i realised - what would face them is the same as is they were straight. But no matter what they are my kids and I would defend them to the last.
Yes you would defend them and in a very conservative society, you would have a lot of defending to do. If they follow the natural path they're designed to, your life and theirs would be much easier.
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For the legislation, we have all bought into the slam Russia (as they're not flavour of the year) propaganda. The law that was passed was far more wideranging and far more useful that 1 small clause. The full law was to protect youth from undue influence and it borrowed from EU, US and WTO guidelines. It removed advertising of alcohol from public areas, websites, newspapers, tv and radio. It reinforced the law preventing alcohol sales from kiosks (a major source of underage drinking). It reinforced an amendment for age appropriate warnings on advertisements, shows and movies. It further strengthened age appropriate ratings on news articles (something that was decried in the liberal world - because native advertising would be decimated). Western companies, especially video/net game producers, alcohol producers and media suppliers (especially the big US and German syndicates) went mental. They paid local PR companies to campaign against this law, and the nail they hammered - the prevention of promoting alternative lifestyles. It was the only one that flew as if the full facts were known, I think many countries, bar Ireland, would be less exercised.
Putin is only one of a large group, but some of what he does makes sense. A little, but it does.
And amidst his economic issues, his Ukraine issues, his geopolitical issues, where people are literally dying by/from his influence/actions, it's his homo policy that our media are most bothered about.